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Anya Yazria
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4201 - 2012-03-28 23:59:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Anya Yazria
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AveryFaneActual
PandoraSquad
#4202 - 2012-03-29 00:00:48 UTC
That's why I voted for Elise :P
Jita Alt666
#4203 - 2012-03-29 00:06:29 UTC

The Mittani wrote:

When in Iceland, I stumbled: my presentation was boring, I was hideously drunk, and I said something entirely regrettable. My apology upon my return was not a troll (though our in-game enemies are trying to imply it is just a calculated move); as a maniacal control freak, me getting that drunk leaves me with a foul opinion of myself and I wish I hadn’t done as I had.


The Mittani wrote:

I apologized personally to The Wis; There is no question that I went too far and drank too much, and ignored advice that I shouldn’t use that specific slide at all.


Jade Constantine wrote:


Well having now read his freak out session on EN24
http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/28/leak-gsf-ceo-update-clutching-pearls-and-finger-wagging/

I have to say I was FAR too kind to this guy. He deserves the ban and everything he gets.
Spiteful footstamping he sounds like a child with its lollypop taken away.
I'm very disappointed that he made a public apology while secretly writing that vitreolic poison secretly to an audience of goons.
Good riddence to the guy.


Your reading comprehension is terrible your Spiteful footstamping and vitriolic poison are noted.
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#4204 - 2012-03-29 00:10:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Bride
Alex: I apologize!
CCP: Apology NOT accepted.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Lazareth Toxin
Endless Cycle Inc.
#4205 - 2012-03-29 00:32:21 UTC
Don't really understand why you was banned or resigned, your comments were not in game and were in a casual forum which could easily be equated to a bar...which we all know what happens there, we drink, we tell stories and we blow-off stream.

In any event, sorry to see your not chairman and hope you run again.
Tolmar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4206 - 2012-03-29 00:34:39 UTC
Democratically elected my a**, got more than double the amount of votes as any other candidate and you all kick him out due to a bad joke... This is just dumb, 99% of people who write things like that are full of crap and just trying to save their ship or their isk farming area... Roll
Landrae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4207 - 2012-03-29 00:35:33 UTC
Landrae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4208 - 2012-03-29 00:37:53 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
Alex: I apologize!
CCP: Apology NOT accepted.


Many Employers Utilize this same tactic. You make a mistake and they give you the choice to Quit with a chance to be rehired someday, or be fired. Mittens took the quit CSM and rock CSM 8,9,10,11 and every CSM after that.

Welcome to Eve Online
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4209 - 2012-03-29 00:50:36 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Congratulations to everyone on my side of the floor, this day we won a victory for some standards of ooc camaraderie and mutual respect in eve online.


Let's recap here.

1. The Wis brings personal issues into the game.
2. The Mittani does something very stupid and to my mind very rude.
3. There is a large public outcry.
4. The Mittani apologises and donates his ISK to The Wis.
5. The Mittani, after consultation, resigns as chair and from the CSM (Wasn't very clear if he is off the CSM).
6. CCP hands out a 30 day ban and decides to review future material for Fanfest.

The man that owned up to his horrid mistake and did his best to offer restitution is the man that comes out of this on top. Of course, the same can't be said of the mass of Goons that have posted their vitriol over these pages; but at least they're loyal.

I don't know why, but some reason your post just makes me think of a politician greaseballing for votes or something. There is something distinctly slimy about it.




Well having now read his freak out session on EN24
http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/28/leak-gsf-ceo-update-clutching-pearls-and-finger-wagging/

I have to say I was FAR too kind to this guy. He deserves the ban and everything he gets.
Spiteful footstamping he sounds like a child with its lollypop taken away.
I'm very disappointed that he made a public apology while secretly writing that vitreolic poison secretly to an audience of goons.
Good riddence to the guy.



The apology was fake, he is not humble. He only did it to be able to stay on the CSM and keep hold of his power.

Yeah CCP needs to ban him. He hasn't learned a thing and was clearly not sincere. And based on what his thugs have been doing even after his apology its obvious the apology was a sham.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#4210 - 2012-03-29 00:50:42 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:

The Mittani wrote:

When in Iceland, I stumbled: my presentation was boring, I was hideously drunk, and I said something entirely regrettable. My apology upon my return was not a troll (though our in-game enemies are trying to imply it is just a calculated move); as a maniacal control freak, me getting that drunk leaves me with a foul opinion of myself and I wish I hadn’t done as I had.


The Mittani wrote:

I apologized personally to The Wis; There is no question that I went too far and drank too much, and ignored advice that I shouldn’t use that specific slide at all.


Jade Constantine wrote:


Well having now read his freak out session on EN24
http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/28/leak-gsf-ceo-update-clutching-pearls-and-finger-wagging/

I have to say I was FAR too kind to this guy. He deserves the ban and everything he gets.
Spiteful footstamping he sounds like a child with its lollypop taken away.
I'm very disappointed that he made a public apology while secretly writing that vitreolic poison secretly to an audience of goons.
Good riddence to the guy.


Your reading comprehension is terrible your Spiteful footstamping and vitriolic poison are noted.


as is your selective quoting. post it all or get out.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#4211 - 2012-03-29 00:54:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Bride
Andski wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
By the way, the answer to "Is this thread still going" would be "This thread is just getting started."

Wait till you see it after The Mittani is booted from the CSM (sorry, steps down "voluntarily") and then again after his accounts are banned.


lmao


*chirp* Why aren't you laughing anymore, brosefs?

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4212 - 2012-03-29 00:55:00 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Congratulations to everyone on my side of the floor, this day we won a victory for some standards of ooc camaraderie and mutual respect in eve online.


Let's recap here.

1. The Wis brings personal issues into the game.
2. The Mittani does something very stupid and to my mind very rude.
3. There is a large public outcry.
4. The Mittani apologises and donates his ISK to The Wis.
5. The Mittani, after consultation, resigns as chair and from the CSM (Wasn't very clear if he is off the CSM).
6. CCP hands out a 30 day ban and decides to review future material for Fanfest.

The man that owned up to his horrid mistake and did his best to offer restitution is the man that comes out of this on top. Of course, the same can't be said of the mass of Goons that have posted their vitriol over these pages; but at least they're loyal.

I don't know why, but some reason your post just makes me think of a politician greaseballing for votes or something. There is something distinctly slimy about it.




Well having now read his freak out session on EN24
http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/28/leak-gsf-ceo-update-clutching-pearls-and-finger-wagging/

I have to say I was FAR too kind to this guy. He deserves the ban and everything he gets.
Spiteful footstamping he sounds like a child with its lollypop taken away.
I'm very disappointed that he made a public apology while secretly writing that vitreolic poison secretly to an audience of goons.
Good riddence to the guy.



The apology was fake, he is not humble. He only did it to be able to stay on the CSM and keep hold of his power.

Yeah CCP needs to ban him. He hasn't learned a thing and was clearly not sincere. And based on what his thugs have been doing even after his apology its obvious the apology was a sham.



http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28576

At Least CCP seems to get it. 30 day ban, hes off CSM6 and CSM 7 and they might not let him do any future CSMs.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Frying Doom
#4213 - 2012-03-29 00:56:36 UTC
Landrae wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
Alex: I apologize!
CCP: Apology NOT accepted.


Many Employers Utilize this same tactic. You make a mistake and they give you the choice to Quit with a chance to be rehired someday, or be fired. Mittens took the quit CSM and rock CSM 8,9,10,11 and every CSM after that.

Maybe you should read this http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28576

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#4214 - 2012-03-29 00:58:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Bride
Landrae wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
Alex: I apologize!
CCP: Apology NOT accepted.


Many Employers Utilize this same tactic. You make a mistake and they give you the choice to Quit with a chance to be rehired someday, or be fired. Mittens took the quit CSM and rock CSM 8,9,10,11 and every CSM after that.


Perhaps you didn't read CCP's dev blog completely. That's okay, when he's not on the ballot in CSM 8 I'll laugh again. You're right in that if he HAD resigned from the CSM like a man, he might have avoided the 30 day ban, and not effectively left the decision of whether to let him run in ANY future CSM election to CCP. That WAS a stupid move on his part, not manning up like that.

Apparently the full implications of this haven't sunk in with all the goons yet. But the surprising part is that I am surprised.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4215 - 2012-03-29 00:58:57 UTC
from The Last Mittani. The Last Brennevin.

There is no way in hell that booze is ever going to be an official component of any CCP Fanfest from here on in. No more official dev pubcrawls (officially). No more drunken alliance panels (thank goodness, because the drunken portions were always a waste of time.) No more live drinking game/quiz shows. The alliance panel might survive in some form, with breathalyzers given beforehand (you can pick these things up at a 7-11 now for a few bucks). Hell, the best portion of the 2012 Alliance Panel was presented by quite sober wormhole people. No one is talking glowingly of any portion of the alliance panel where the presenters were stone-cold drunk. Sober people find drunk people ******* dumb. Only drunk people find stumbling drunks hilarious.

CCP needs to put on a new face. So the 10th Anniversary Fanfest will be a different affair. There'll still be drinking and drunks, just not as part of the official proceedings. There will still probably be devs to hang out with and crawl pubs, but not listed on any of the Fanfest informationals. They will be fan organized events. And that's cool. And as it should be.

CCP is moving forward. This is to be expected. I didn't expect the see the Alliance Panel in its regular format next year, even if no drama had erupted from it. Except for a couple of groups (who happened to be sober), it has become a colossal waste of time. There might be a fan organized alliance panel, not at the convention site, but CCP isn't going to touch it with a ten foot pole, nor will they allow any employees to attend.

As for The Mittani. It is a shame that he's been booted from the CSM. CCP had to do this, given the publicity. Obviously, before anything erupted, CCP was unbothered by what occurred. They were in attendance, after all. No action was taken until it all became radioactive.

It's a lesson in hubris for Alex. He's been feeling quite untouchable for the last year. That anything he did, he was going to find himself above the fray, no matter how many people he pissed off and outraged. He discovered the line this week.

I feel bad for him, though. His game has become the meta-game, and his persona has become that of the King of Space. This is going to be a harsh and sudden change for him.

I'm not sure he's going to enjoy being out of the spotlight. I expect he's going to be tremendously bored just playing space CEO. By this time next year, I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to move on from EVE Online to other activities. And if Mittens departs, many Goons will likely follow. The game will be worse for his departure. Worse with fewer Goons.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4216 - 2012-03-29 01:04:32 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
Landrae wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
Alex: I apologize!
CCP: Apology NOT accepted.


Many Employers Utilize this same tactic. You make a mistake and they give you the choice to Quit with a chance to be rehired someday, or be fired. Mittens took the quit CSM and rock CSM 8,9,10,11 and every CSM after that.


Perhaps you didn't read CCP's dev blog completely. That's okay, when he's not on the ballot in CSM 8 I'll laugh again. You're right in that if he HAD resigned from the CSM like a man, he might have avoided the 30 day ban, and not effectively left the decision of whether to let him run in ANY future CSM election to CCP. That WAS a stupid move on his part, not manning up like that.

Apparently the full implications of this haven't sunk in with all the goons yet. But the surprising part is that I am surprised.



This is exactly the point.

He all the sudden slipped back into his Im the big bad goon persona rather then being a man and HTFU about it.


Well CCP made him HTFU for him. And much worse then what people were calling for originally.

He tossed gas on his own fire and let it burn out of control.

There is a lesson for everyone in this about how to act like a leader. Something mittens was clearly not in this case.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Jita Alt666
#4217 - 2012-03-29 01:07:42 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:


as is your selective quoting. post it all or get out.


I would have however It is too big for this forum board.

a quick tl;dr is:
I screwed up
I apologised
Seriously I apologised
I am bad
Look at all the douches on the bandwagon
Who cares about the CSM anyway we are goons
Lets do goon stuff

oh here is a little gem you might like:
The Mittani wrote:

That said, my apology to The Wis doesn't extend towards the gaming media who are trying to make a quick buck by whoring traffic by dumping on me without actually investigating what took place, and that apology certainly doesn't extend to hypocritical shitbags like Jade Constantine or Issler Dainze who are explicitly trying to use this controversy to further an ingame political agenda.
Doddy
Excidium.
#4218 - 2012-03-29 01:08:30 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Well having now read his freak out session on EN24
http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/28/leak-gsf-ceo-update-clutching-pearls-and-finger-wagging/

I have to say I was FAR too kind to this guy. He deserves the ban and everything he gets.
Spiteful footstamping he sounds like a child with its lollypop taken away.
I'm very disappointed that he made a public apology while secretly writing that vitreolic poison secretly to an audience of goons.
Good riddence to the guy.


Nonsense. The childish footstamping is coming from you. He is right in the core of what he wrote - people are taking this issue, which has been dealt with, and using it as a mechanism to destroy the Goonswarm because they are unable to do so in-game.


This, at least if anything good comes from this it is that Jade as exposed himself for what he trully is. An open and honest post on goon forums is "secretly writing vitreolic poison" simply because it dared to criticize jade.
Ry Anubis
HotRock Mining PLC
#4219 - 2012-03-29 01:10:16 UTC
Hes A Sad Panda Now... Sad
GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#4220 - 2012-03-29 01:10:57 UTC
It is beyond outrageous and completely unacceptable that this person would ever be given the opportunity to represent the player base again.