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New Dev Blog: Alliance Panel at Fanfest 2012: The Conclusion

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Josef Djugashvilis
#441 - 2012-03-28 23:54:06 UTC
If all or many of the Goons cancel their subs, have they not in effect, thrown in the towel?

In effect the meta-gamers will have been out meta-gamed by those who have exploited the unfortunate event in in Iceland.

This is not a signature.

Zena Zayn
Sleep Walking
#442 - 2012-03-28 23:54:34 UTC
End Of Time wrote:
CCP only Banned him... He stepped down of his own will.


Reading comprehension is definitely not your friend.
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#443 - 2012-03-28 23:54:45 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
If all or many of the Goons cancel their subs, have they not in effect, thrown in the towel?

In effect the meta-gamers will have been out meta-gamed by those who have exploited the unfortunate event in in Iceland.


it's a form of metagaming you see

(in-game)

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Valkyria Caeli
Doomheim
#444 - 2012-03-28 23:54:57 UTC
You know, we shouldn't jump to any conclusions in this. We should still hold open the possibility that Mittens had planned all along to nullify 10k+ Goon votes by getting drunk, saying something crazy and then apologizing and resigning his seat only after the results were finally announced. He does, after all, lead the way in scamming people for the lulz.
Derrick Munroe
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#445 - 2012-03-28 23:55:06 UTC
End Of Time wrote:
CCP only Banned him... He stepped down of his own will.


He stepped down from the chairman position. Not from the CSM in its entirety.

What's it like, not owning any tech moons?

Yeep
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#446 - 2012-03-28 23:55:11 UTC
Also CCP, while I have your attention, perhaps you should consider the repercussions of publically allowing the CSM to come to their own decision on this then even more publically overriding it. That doesn't look to me like the actions of a company who takes their playerbase seriously.
Jim Luc
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#447 - 2012-03-28 23:55:19 UTC
If he stepped down as CHAIR only, why did this devblog state that he was stepping down from CSM6 and subsequently CSM7? Did I read the blog correctly, or am I mistaken somehow? If so then I think quite a few others are also mistaken here lol Ugh
Magnus Orin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#448 - 2012-03-28 23:55:27 UTC
CCP you just created a Martyr.
Jonatan Reed
Wildcard.
Boundary Experts
#449 - 2012-03-28 23:55:28 UTC
Right, No.

This is a crock of ****. If your removing and giving him a 30 day ban, you might as well ban everyone else that has every scammed, trolled ,or otherwise trashtalked someone.

ELITE PVP, WHADDUP

Golar Crexis
Donald Trump Real Estate
#450 - 2012-03-28 23:55:35 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:

Its a very fair decision from CCP and will gain a large degree of respect from the wider gaming media I believe.

Well done CCP, I am very impressed.




Excuse me for this but **** you, Seriously go **** yourself (in game RP terms here).

I voted for the mittani and this is not what I want to see, its not what the 10000 supporters wanted to see.
I understand you are unfamiliar with democracy (coming from earlier csm's were the vote count was so low as to be non-existant) however I am completely shocked that CCP would ignore the wishes of over 10000 paying customers.

If you had any sense of fairness you'd be joining us and asking CCP about the 10000.
sakurako
Eternal Darkness.
The Initiative.
#451 - 2012-03-28 23:55:44 UTC
i'm loving this, this shows ccp is fair and treats all its customers the same if i had said what The Mittani said people would be looking for me to be band.

being the head of an alliance or the chair of the csm should not give you more rights than anyother players

yes i know he was drunk and it was a drunk stupid mistake but then again so is drink driving and having an accident.

lets remember he was encourging players to break the eula/tos as well (any player that did do that should be baned as well)

to those that say the eula/tos do not apply does that mean if i'm not loged into the game and tell people on ts3 how to exploit the game that wil make them 50b isk right away is that an ok thing to do? i didn't sign the ccp eula or agree to the tos on ts3 right?

now with that said i hope ccp will rerun the csm election with the mittani removed from the list.

Schettino
Doomheim
#452 - 2012-03-28 23:55:53 UTC
All those crying about the 10k vote loss.

The player has been banned and is out of the game -> LOSS OF REPRESENTATION.

PERIOD


Blame the player himself and NOT CCP.
Nemo deBlanc
Resource Acquisition Unlimited
#453 - 2012-03-28 23:56:05 UTC
Couldn't possibly care less about Mittani. But holy s­hit are these Goon tears hilarious. Lol The only thing that's going to be more hilarious is the griefing wave that is surely about to wash over high sec.
Steelradio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#454 - 2012-03-28 23:56:29 UTC
The amount of people in this thread that say "oh people tell each other to kill themselves on eve all the time and they don't get banned" amuses me. He didn't just tell someone to kill themselves, he provoked other people to try and harrass this guy into suicide.

Yes alright, stuff like that happens all the time in EVE but he was a CCP representative. He most likely has his own contract with them that covers things like this. Yes is sucks for him and for Goons but as far as CCP are concerned they had to do it. Both from a "these are our own rules" point of view and a "we're a business" point of view.

CCP are in a big deal with Sony, they also have their own image as a company to look out for, their hands were pretty much tied to this decision.

Not taking sides in this as my personal opinion doesn't make a difference, but from a business point of view, I can understand why CCP did it. Even Mittani himself admitted he should resign because of this and he was ashamed of what he did. I don't think he is raging too much about this, so why is everyone else?

The bigger deal people make of this, either showing support for CCP or raging at CCP, the longer it will be before the dust clears and CCP can rethink their decision (if they decide too) without too much political/business bull crap exploding from their actions.

TLDR: Calm down and get on with things and let CCP and Mittani sort this out between them. I'm sure if Mitanni wants to fight this, we'll hear it from him himself.
kong Thiesant
Gas-been
#455 - 2012-03-28 23:56:40 UTC
This is just stupid. **** off ccp.
Astroniomix
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#456 - 2012-03-28 23:57:03 UTC
2.5%
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#457 - 2012-03-28 23:57:09 UTC
Schettino wrote:
All those crying about the 10k vote loss.

The player has been banned and is out of the game -> LOSS OF REPRESENTATION.

PERIOD


Blame the player himself and NOT CCP.


wrong

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

sakurako
Eternal Darkness.
The Initiative.
#458 - 2012-03-28 23:57:41 UTC
Golar Crexis wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:

Its a very fair decision from CCP and will gain a large degree of respect from the wider gaming media I believe.

Well done CCP, I am very impressed.




Excuse me for this but **** you, Seriously go **** yourself (in game RP terms here).

I voted for the mittani and this is not what I want to see, its not what the 10000 supporters wanted to see.
I understand you are unfamiliar with democracy (coming from earlier csm's were the vote count was so low as to be non-existant) however I am completely shocked that CCP would ignore the wishes of over 10000 paying customers.

If you had any sense of fairness you'd be joining us and asking CCP about the 10000.


ccp are being fair and treating him as just any other player, but i do think a rerun of the election with out him is in order here
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#459 - 2012-03-28 23:57:50 UTC
Jim Luc wrote:
If he stepped down as CHAIR only, why did this devblog state that he was stepping down from CSM6 and subsequently CSM7? Did I read the blog correctly, or am I mistaken somehow? If so then I think quite a few others are also mistaken here lol Ugh

cause ccp axed him , as they should ..
30 day ban is a minor thing

Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#460 - 2012-03-28 23:58:23 UTC
Andski wrote:
Sasha Azala wrote:
You can't? Two Step is TEST seems normal to me.


You misspelled AHARM.

in-game


hmm seems like your fault for not having 3 cfc run for csm... like you did last year

jokes on you i guess...

live and learn...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.