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My Apology

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Admiral Saxif Kharn
Doomheim
#3581 - 2012-03-28 17:35:10 UTC
Immortis Vexx wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
Kallynda Nai.


Vexx


Immortis Vexx wrote:
[b wrote:
I think that Goons is a great part of EVE[/b]


I found your mistake.


Careful, your bias is showing.


Yup you goon alts and Goons helped form it over the last few days with your responses and pro killing people irl stance.
[/quote]

I am NOT a goon alt. Nor would I ever want to be. Goonswarm is a group of pure evil and vile intent. You cannot have light without the dark though. Also, it gives us something to b**** about on the forums ^_~ [/quote]


Sadly anyone who doesnt agree with the guys screaming for only one side to be punished are going to be called a Goon alt, I already have been lol
Joe South
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#3582 - 2012-03-28 17:35:47 UTC
As you would know by seeing my alliance, I am on "your side" in the game. I hope you stay active and do your best to keep Eve the wonderful game that it is.

In real life, I'm an older guy who has had my share of success in professional life. You're also a professional, albeit a young one, and you represent yourself as such to the entire Eve community when you ask for our support as a CSM member. Therefore, I would expect you to always maintain your ability to think clearly and coherently at any moment that you are representing yourself, your alliance, and/or the Eve community at large. This is essentially anytime you are involved with the game, whether you like that responsibility or not.

I find it interesting and maybe revealing that your apology did not include you getting hammered to the point you lost ability to exhibit good judgment, to take responsibility for your actions, and to be a good representative to all your constituents both in and out of the game. It's your duty to do this, but it's unclear you understand this duty.

I doubt you'll face much legal trouble, at least not here in the USA, and I hope you do not have legal consequences anywhere. I can already think of a variety of ways you could avoid criminal prosecution. The issue goes beyond whether you are guilty of a crime, however. Are you a professionally responsible individual? Are you trustworthy enough to be given the role of representative of others, even in a game? Will those in your real-life legal community be concerned about your maturity and ethics? These are real concerns your apology fails to address -- and it's unclear whether you even see that these are potential problems at hand.

We all make mistakes in life, and all we can do is apologize, reverse the consequences of our mistakes (if possible), and be better people after the mistakes than we were before. Good luck to you in making all of these things happen.
Yoma Karima
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3583 - 2012-03-28 17:35:51 UTC
Dang it took the WiS Forum by Issler severel months to get this manny postsShocked well done Eve politics.

Those who wish to end War wish to end what it means to be human. Those who advocate War do not know its power. Yet Those who learn from War will be remembered for all time.

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3584 - 2012-03-28 17:36:46 UTC
WiS was the most anticipated feature this side of Inferno. No kidding.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#3585 - 2012-03-28 17:37:29 UTC
Yoma Karima wrote:
Dang it took the WiS Forum by Issler severel months to get this manny postsShocked well done Eve politics.


I just want it to end. Why won't Mittani let it end.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Abriael VonRosen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3586 - 2012-03-28 17:39:27 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Abriael VonRosen wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

The fact that most of them got it from an anti-GSF blog site and all of them were mailed by anti-Mittani white knighters has of corse nothing at all to do with it.


Can you prove that? I for one came across this unsightly mess by myself, and just chose not to report on it for the reasons I already explained. Gaming news reporting (and editorial writing) is an extremely competitive business. Writers scrape the bottom of the barrel for hours each days to find juicy morsels as this one. Believing that they would have not noticed by themselves is naive at best, disingenuous at worst.

Ultimately, Mittani had absolutely no problems with dragging CCP's name in the mud across the whole gaming press when it suited his agenda. He even boasted about it multiple times. As I already said, what goes 'round comes 'round. I doubt anyone has any right to complain about the press coming back and biting him in the rear.


Already had a few NPC alts boast about it in this thread and the other threadnought.


You know that a "NPC alt" boasting proves absolutely nothing right? I can boast about being the queen of England. That doesn't make me the queen of England.
Alexander Taos
Falco Industries
#3587 - 2012-03-28 17:39:34 UTC
Could it be possible the whole suicide evemail thing was a fake ploy to try and get some sort of compensation for the destruction of 22 macks?
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3588 - 2012-03-28 17:40:01 UTC
Admiral Saxif Kharn wrote:
Immortis Vexx wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
Kallynda Nai.


Vexx


Immortis Vexx wrote:
[b wrote:
I think that Goons is a great part of EVE[/b]


I found your mistake.


Careful, your bias is showing.


Yup you goon alts and Goons helped form it over the last few days with your responses and pro killing people irl stance.


I am NOT a goon alt. Nor would I ever want to be. Goonswarm is a group of pure evil and vile intent. You cannot have light without the dark though. Also, it gives us something to b**** about on the forums ^_~ [/quote]


Sadly anyone who doesnt agree with the guys screaming for only one side to be punished are going to be called a Goon alt, I already have been lol[/quote]


And for good reason if you have been in these threads since the start.

You may or may not be a goon alt. But many are or are goon pets that are part of the Cult. You have to accept that if you are going to wade into this even with the best of intentions.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **

Magnus Orin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#3589 - 2012-03-28 17:40:38 UTC
Alexander Taos wrote:
Could it be possible the whole suicide evemail thing was a fake ploy to try and get some sort of compensation for the destruction of 22 macks?


Or even simpler than that... attention?
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#3590 - 2012-03-28 17:41:45 UTC
Alexander Taos wrote:
Could it be possible the whole suicide evemail thing was a fake ploy to try and get some sort of compensation for the destruction of 22 macks?


... Of course it was. That's why Mittani was mocking him.
Yoma Karima
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3591 - 2012-03-28 17:43:11 UTC
Anyone wana bet what time today this forum hits 200 pages?

Those who wish to end War wish to end what it means to be human. Those who advocate War do not know its power. Yet Those who learn from War will be remembered for all time.

RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3592 - 2012-03-28 17:43:18 UTC
Xython wrote:
Alexander Taos wrote:
Could it be possible the whole suicide evemail thing was a fake ploy to try and get some sort of compensation for the destruction of 22 macks?


... Of course it was. That's why Mittani was mocking him.



Mocking or calling for him to die in real life.

very different things.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#3593 - 2012-03-28 17:43:29 UTC
Alexander Taos wrote:
Could it be possible the whole suicide evemail thing was a fake ploy to try and get some sort of compensation for the destruction of 22 macks?


NO WAY!!!

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Admiral Saxif Kharn
Doomheim
#3594 - 2012-03-28 17:44:46 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
[quote=Admiral Saxif Kharnol



And for good reason if you have been in these threads since the start.

You may or may not be a goon alt. But many are or are goon pets that are part of the Cult. You have to accept that if you are going to wade into this even with the best of intentions. [/quote]


I have only recently posted, and what I am saying is that ALL people who issue death threats and so on should get banned form eve when petitioned. No, im not a goon alt, I want equality. Everyone willing to cause RL anguish from a game should be treated the same no matter what medium they use to inflict it. No matter what their stature in game.
Giuliano Verti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3595 - 2012-03-28 17:45:03 UTC
The Mittani ‏ @TheMittani:

So I'm just going to own up and fall on my sword, regardless of quibbling about it

@Northern_Goblin not to the public, but to the dude I said that **** about, its the least I can do. In addition to apology, actions > words

So... actions hum?

We still waiting....
Abriael VonRosen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3596 - 2012-03-28 17:46:09 UTC
Admiral Saxif Kharn wrote:

I have only recently posted, and what I am saying is that ALL people who issue death threats and so on should get banned form eve when petitioned.


I think that's what currently happens, or at least what the rules state.
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3597 - 2012-03-28 17:46:18 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Alexander Taos wrote:
Could it be possible the whole suicide evemail thing was a fake ploy to try and get some sort of compensation for the destruction of 22 macks?


NO WAY!!!

doesnt matter

he could not know


Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!

RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3598 - 2012-03-28 17:46:25 UTC
Admiral Saxif Kharn wrote:


I have only recently posted, and what I am saying is that ALL people who issue death threats and so on should get banned form eve when petitioned. No, im not a goon alt, I want equality. Everyone willing to cause RL anguish from a game should be treated the same no matter what medium they use to inflict it. No matter what their stature in game.



So you agree they need to Ban mittani.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **

Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#3599 - 2012-03-28 17:47:32 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Xython wrote:
Alexander Taos wrote:
Could it be possible the whole suicide evemail thing was a fake ploy to try and get some sort of compensation for the destruction of 22 macks?


... Of course it was. That's why Mittani was mocking him.



Mocking or calling for him to die in real life.

very different things.

Indeed. Mittens mocked a botter. And, when asked, provided the name "if you want to make this guy kill himself". Notice the complete lack of Mittens actually calling for him to die.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3600 - 2012-03-28 17:48:12 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Alexander Taos wrote:
Could it be possible the whole suicide evemail thing was a fake ploy to try and get some sort of compensation for the destruction of 22 macks?


NO WAY!!!

doesnt matter

he could not know





Exactly they keep trying to dodge the point.

he could not know the mental health or real world status of the person in question.


They are the type that think a women asked for **** cause she dressed to sexy. This is the basic mentality the goons are pushing.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **