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My Apology

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#3561 - 2012-03-28 17:20:06 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
Magnus Orin wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
Let's apply Occam's Razor to a few things here shall we? Which is more likely:

A) Alex is a roleplayer in-game, on forums, and in Twitter
B) Alex is a douchebag who is hiding behind RP as an excuse for his usual behaviour.

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A) Alex was so drunk at the panel that he had an alcohol blackout and couldn't remember anything he said.
B) Alex is using the "blackout" as an excuse to cover for his "deal with it" comment. He remembered it fine, just didn't realize it would be such a big deal.



Well, since we know for a fact he's a role player and we also know for a fact he was drinking heavily, you have pretty much shot yourself in the foot there.


LOL

We "know for a fact" The Mittani is a roleplayer? Proof plz?


There is a picture of him LARPing a few pages back. It's a known fact he's into RPing. He's just not a flaming space knight most of you picture when you think of RPing in Eve.

Edit: Here you go.


A picture of him in "garb" once proves he RPs in forums and Twitter constantly... how?


Lets apply Occam's Razor shall we?

A: We have photographic evidence of him not only role playing, but in full LARP mode. His interest in it is a running joke among thousands of players. He enjoys role playing a great deal.

B: We have a one time photo of him wearing what is probably an expensive set of custom fit armor alongside what is possibly his wife (also in full costume). It is undoubtably the only time he has done this and the embarrassment has forced him to hate RP with a passion.

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RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3562 - 2012-03-28 17:21:40 UTC
Immortis Vexx wrote:
I have serious mixed feelings about all of this. On one hand, I *HATE* goons, on the other, I think that Goons is a great part of EVE and a necessary force of evil. What was said was out of line, and I appreciate the apology given. However, I do not think that The Mittani should step down from the CSM. We all say things that we shouldn't. We have all messed up and it is in fact part of human nature. I truly hope that CCP finds a legal loophole that allows them to let this one go.


Vexx


Immortis Vexx wrote:
I think that Goons is a great part of EVE


I found your mistake.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **

Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3563 - 2012-03-28 17:21:42 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
ROFL!!!!!!

Holy crap, this whole thread was worth seeing that pic! LolLolLolLolLolLolLolLol


Can't argue with you there.
Captain Trousers
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3564 - 2012-03-28 17:22:28 UTC
(10:14:48 AM) directorbot: This whole thing has just gone **** crazy and I can't take the stress of it anymore. In an hour I will be stepping down from life. Welp see ya.

*** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***
Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3565 - 2012-03-28 17:22:40 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Immortis Vexx wrote:
I have serious mixed feelings about all of this. On one hand, I *HATE* goons, on the other, I think that Goons is a great part of EVE and a necessary force of evil. What was said was out of line, and I appreciate the apology given. However, I do not think that The Mittani should step down from the CSM. We all say things that we shouldn't. We have all messed up and it is in fact part of human nature. I truly hope that CCP finds a legal loophole that allows them to let this one go.


Vexx


Immortis Vexx wrote:
I think that Goons is a great part of EVE


I found your mistake.


Careful, your bias is showing.
Arec Bardwin
#3566 - 2012-03-28 17:22:52 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
ROFL!!!!!!!

Holy crap, this whole thread was worth seeing that pic! LolLolLolLolLolLolLolLol

Big smile
Magnus Orin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#3567 - 2012-03-28 17:23:44 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Immortis Vexx wrote:
I have serious mixed feelings about all of this. On one hand, I *HATE* goons, on the other, I think that Goons is a great part of EVE and a necessary force of evil. What was said was out of line, and I appreciate the apology given. However, I do not think that The Mittani should step down from the CSM. We all say things that we shouldn't. We have all messed up and it is in fact part of human nature. I truly hope that CCP finds a legal loophole that allows them to let this one go.


Vexx


Immortis Vexx wrote:
I think that Goons is a great part of EVE


I found your mistake.


And how many newbies have you recruited to Eve?
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#3568 - 2012-03-28 17:25:11 UTC
Captain Trousers wrote:
(10:14:48 AM) directorbot: This whole thing has just gone **** crazy and I can't take the stress of it anymore. In an hour I will be stepping down from life. Welp see ya.

*** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***


That isn't as good as my one was.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3569 - 2012-03-28 17:25:18 UTC
Kallynda Nai wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
Immortis Vexx wrote:
I have serious mixed feelings about all of this. On one hand, I *HATE* goons, on the other, I think that Goons is a great part of EVE and a necessary force of evil. What was said was out of line, and I appreciate the apology given. However, I do not think that The Mittani should step down from the CSM. We all say things that we shouldn't. We have all messed up and it is in fact part of human nature. I truly hope that CCP finds a legal loophole that allows them to let this one go.


Vexx


Immortis Vexx wrote:
I think that Goons is a great part of EVE


I found your mistake.


Careful, your bias is showing.


Yup you goon alts and Goons helped form it over the last few days with your responses and pro killing people irl stance.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **

Admiral Saxif Kharn
Doomheim
#3570 - 2012-03-28 17:26:41 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Admiral Saxif Kharn wrote:
Apparently my thread was locked and told to post here, so here is my post. Though it doesnt appear to be th esame topic exactly.If the precedent is set with The Mittani being punished, then all I ask is that all other players who act in a hateful or insulting way on the same scale be punished equally.


Sure I vote that any player acting in this way should be stripped of CSM status.

Next.



Yep, tahts your vote. Seems its ok for people to issue death threats by mail to other players then yeah?

Sorry, Im afraid I cant really put much faith in a player who runs online cybering as a passtime, kind of wierds me out that you pretend to be a girl and cyber with men.. Call me odd, but hey...
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3571 - 2012-03-28 17:26:49 UTC
Admiral Saxif Kharn wrote:
Apparently my thread was locked and told to post here, so here is my post. Though it doesnt appear to be th esame topic exactly.



If the precedent is set with The Mittani being punished, then all I ask is that all other players who act in a hateful or insulting way on the same scale be punished equally.

IE, Mittani is banned from Eve, then ALL petitioned people proven to send hate mail/forum posts/chat with death threats or any kind of 'die in a fire' 'go kill yourself' style mails and forum posts should also be banned form Eve.

If Mittani is punished by being stripped of CSM cahir or CSM membership then CCP will have to figure out an equal punishment that can be metered out to the above players who deal out that kind of stuff on a daily basis in game.

Fairness means equal punishment for an equal transgression.


The bigger issue to the event, wasn't a single mail, or the grief, so much, but more of an insiting for people to harass somebody else in response to the suicide mail that he presented. The instigation is the bigger thing. So the precidence is for punishment of people who harass or promote harassment of another in game based solely on a request not to harass when the person did what they could to the extent of game mechanics to avoid it. My two bits anyways.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#3572 - 2012-03-28 17:26:50 UTC
Admiral Saxif Kharn wrote:
Apparently my thread was locked and told to post here, so here is my post. Though it doesnt appear to be th esame topic exactly If the precedent is set with The Mittani being punished, then all I ask is that all other players who act in a hateful or insulting way on the same scale be punished equally IE, Mittani is banned from Eve, then ALL petitioned people proven to send hate mail/forum posts/chat with death threats or any kind of 'die in a fire' 'go kill yourself' style mails and forum posts should also be banned form Eve If Mittani is punished by being stripped of CSM cahir or CSM membership then CCP will have to figure out an equal punishment that can be metered out to the above players who deal out that kind of stuff on a daily basis in game Fairness means equal punishment for an equal transgression


do you not think people have been warned and sometimes banned for being over aggressive toward people in game, you can bet your balls they have.
Ivana Twinkle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3573 - 2012-03-28 17:26:53 UTC
We can't all be hippies.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#3574 - 2012-03-28 17:28:26 UTC
Admiral Saxif Kharn wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Admiral Saxif Kharn wrote:
Apparently my thread was locked and told to post here, so here is my post. Though it doesnt appear to be th esame topic exactly.If the precedent is set with The Mittani being punished, then all I ask is that all other players who act in a hateful or insulting way on the same scale be punished equally.


Sure I vote that any player acting in this way should be stripped of CSM status.

Next.



Yep, tahts your vote. Seems its ok for people to issue death threats by mail to other players then yeah?

Sorry, Im afraid I cant really put much faith in a player who runs online cybering as a passtime, kind of wierds me out that you pretend to be a girl and cyber with men.. Call me odd, but hey...


hmm you really shouldn't listen to Alexander Gianturco's little fantasies you know. But thanks for revealing yourself as a sordid little troll.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#3575 - 2012-03-28 17:29:07 UTC
Captain Trousers wrote:
(10:14:48 AM) directorbot: This whole thing has just gone **** crazy and I can't take the stress of it anymore. In an hour I will be stepping down from life. Welp see ya.

*** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***


Well that's a strange reaction for him to have to his own inability to resign.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3576 - 2012-03-28 17:29:08 UTC
Zverofaust
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3577 - 2012-03-28 17:29:53 UTC
Sad. CCP makes an event, specifically bills it as uncensored and live, puts the Goons on it, and then low and behold finally some big controversial **** hits the fan... and everyone is blaming Goons?

Goons don't kill people, CCP kills people, with Goons.
Admiral Saxif Kharn
Doomheim
#3578 - 2012-03-28 17:30:23 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Admiral Saxif Kharn wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Admiral Saxif Kharn wrote:
Apparently my thread was locked and told to post here, so here is my post. Though it doesnt appear to be th esame topic exactly.If the precedent is set with The Mittani being punished, then all I ask is that all other players who act in a hateful or insulting way on the same scale be punished equally.


Sure I vote that any player acting in this way should be stripped of CSM status.

Next.



Yep, tahts your vote. Seems its ok for people to issue death threats by mail to other players then yeah?

Sorry, Im afraid I cant really put much faith in a player who runs online cybering as a passtime, kind of wierds me out that you pretend to be a girl and cyber with men.. Call me odd, but hey...


hmm you really shouldn't listen to Alexander Gianturco's little fantasies you know. But thanks for revealing yourself as a sordid little troll.


Sorry, no troll here, Im all for punishment. OF EVERYBODY WHO SENDS RL THREATS OR ANYTHING THAT CAN CAUSE RL ANGUISH.

The cybering thing is from your old website that used to be linked in your bio. Some of us remember many things from the past.
Immortis Vexx
Onyx Moon Industries
#3579 - 2012-03-28 17:32:42 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Kallynda Nai wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
Immortis Vexx wrote:
I have serious mixed feelings about all of this. On one hand, I *HATE* goons, on the other, I think that Goons is a great part of EVE and a necessary force of evil. What was said was out of line, and I appreciate the apology given. However, I do not think that The Mittani should step down from the CSM. We all say things that we shouldn't. We have all messed up and it is in fact part of human nature. I truly hope that CCP finds a legal loophole that allows them to let this one go.


Vexx


Immortis Vexx wrote:
I think that Goons is a great part of EVE


I found your mistake.


Careful, your bias is showing.


Yup you goon alts and Goons helped form it over the last few days with your responses and pro killing people irl stance.


I am NOT a goon alt. Nor would I ever want to be. Goonswarm is a group of pure evil and vile intent. You cannot have light without the dark though. Also, it gives us something to b**** about on the forums ^_~
5tann
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#3580 - 2012-03-28 17:34:14 UTC
snaps for posting an apology, hard and fast lesson for all, keep it in the game.