EVE General Discussion

If an elected politician (even a politician as insignificant as a parish councillor) did what he did, then he would be called upon to resign and might end up getting the party whip withdrawn. It just so happens that he was elected to represent a consituency larger than many politicians'.

If anyone representing a company did what he did, then he would also be called upon to resign and if he didn't he may well get the sack. It just so happens that as far as the non-Eve world is concerned he represents CCP. How does it reflect on CCP when they pay the expenses of a man who publicly calls for one of their customers to be hounded to the point of suicide?

Morelike it was originally supposed to be a Jita victory lap; I predict one of the following:
1. Mittens keeps the chair, people get spacemad, Jita gets scorched in a somehow more humble than before victory lap.
2. Mittens loses the chair, people still angry because he wasn't jailed, Jita gets nuked harder.
3. Mittens gets a ban, people still angry because he wasn't jailed, Jita gets hellcamped for a month.
4. Something else entirely; Jita still gets burnt to various degrees.

Alex Gianturco clearly made an error of judgement by speaking in such a manner whilst inebriated.

To what extent his apology for that mistake is genuine and sincere is extremely difficult to judge not least (and there is not a little irony here) because his 'persona' is typically one of "mocking sincerity". The question then is whether he should be given the benefit of doubt?

Equally CCP will need to consider if the negative PR his actions have generated are such that to continue to allow Alex to act as a representative of both the player base and CCP Games products would be damaging. The association with another major company (SONY) will of course accrue additional embarrassment to CCP.

This unfortunate series of events is not entirely Alex Gianturco's fault, CCP allowed the presentation to occur and have encouraged and fostered its FanFest events to be seen as drunken revels and the antics of its players as somehow 'cool'.

Ultimately though Alex Gianturco accepted the kudos and esteem of being the chair of the CSM and, regardless of how relevant we may see that collection of players, he also accepted the responsibility of that position. Personally I don't doubt that Alex Gianturco is genuinely remorseful of his actions and I have some sympathy with his plight having made numerous errors of judgement whilst under the influence of too much alcohol.

That said he should now demonstrate a greater degree of moral courage by accepting his mistake and offer his resignation - a service which would offer CCP games a resolution to a difficult issue and also a service to EVE Online and its wider player base.

'The Mittani' might say he owes those who didnt vote for him nothing: what Alex Gianturco has to say on the matter will be more revealing.

C.

And what about the other insults you've been hurling around?

Here's a piece of advice - it doesn't make you look good when complain about somebody's insulting behaviour and then proceed to insult them yourself.

I'm not calling for Alexander Gianturco's resignation as CSM chair for him hurling a few insults about. He's been doing that quite happily through his first term after all. I am calling for his resignation because he used the stage at fanfest as a bully-pulpit to call for the organized harrassment towards suicide of an eve player while serving as chair of the CSM.

I realize you can't resist trying to score some sideswipes Rodj but I consider this is a grown up game and we can engage in the hurley-burley of forum debate without our nannies like you complaining about rough language being used. You'll notice i'm not in the habit of running for the mods when I'm debating issues.

But this isn't an issue about me and its not an issue about you.

Try and keep up.

Excellent, so he can resign now and return on April the 4th via his new (and extended) mandate

Just give him the banhammer an be done with it so there is no more fuss

Except that we're now in the post-election period.

I'm going to have to remind you that all of this only holds water if you believe that his statement was a serious request to drive a man to suicide, instead of a bad drunken joke (in the same vein as the entire presentation that came before) about giving an idiot a hard time.

If we went back over all of the statements and posts that you have made through the years and picked out all of the quips, jabs and amusing insults that we would find there... and spun them out of context to appear as if you were deadly serious in stating them... I don't think you'd like how you ended up looking.

Something for you to consider, lest the camera ever catch you inadvertantly letting slip with something that could be twisted to make you look like a psycho. I'm pretty sure you know just how easily that can happen.

Other prominent resigners in that scandal include Rebekah Brooks and James Murdoch (from one of his jobs). I'm sure that Ol' Rupe will see them alright, but they still lost their jobs because of alleged wrong-doing.