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CSM The Mittani's Misconduct Calls for Resignation - We Did It!

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Taihbea
Doomheim
#2601 - 2012-03-28 13:45:17 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Lomarro wrote:
why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs

Do they? What kind of crappy third world country do you live in, that's pathetic.


Some shithole that's for sure. In here you won't find a way to get out of trouble if there was ANY alcohol involved.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2602 - 2012-03-28 13:46:23 UTC
Lomarro wrote:

why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs

I know riiiight....??????

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Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#2603 - 2012-03-28 13:47:20 UTC
little precious bees still crying delicious tears
Frying Doom
#2604 - 2012-03-28 13:48:39 UTC
Lomarro wrote:
aslong a country dont breed isslerboys like you, it cant be crappy

I presume you cant write the current international language well. Bravo for trying, the multilingual should be applauded.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lomarro
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2605 - 2012-03-28 13:49:44 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Lomarro wrote:
aslong a country dont breed isslerboys like you, it cant be crappy

I presume you cant write the current international language well. Bravo for trying, the multilingual should be applauded.


or you are not worth the effort
1Of9
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#2606 - 2012-03-28 13:51:30 UTC  |  Edited by: 1Of9
I find his behavior shameful for the entire player base and for the game itself.

Only way to settle his is to remove him off game,must be banned from CSM and banned from the game.

There was thru eve history players banned by putting "offensive" words on they bio, by calling names to other players in game channels, how can we possibly stand for this?

Cyber bullying is not something that can be tolerated, not in game, not out of game, not anywhere. period.
JTK Fotheringham
Ducks in Outer Space
#2607 - 2012-03-28 13:53:21 UTC
Lomarro wrote:

why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs


You're right. That's why he might get away with not getting banned. But this isn't a "here's the hard and fast rules" situation. This is a PR problem, not a "Alex broke the rules" problem.

The PR problem is dealt with by removing him from the CSM. That also addresses the play-base disappointment being expressed. It also send a message that taking griefing out-of-game is not going to be tolerated, without, you know, actually banning a player for a drunken mistake.

But then, it wasn't a drunken mistake. I'm willing to guess he wasn't drunk when he prepared the presentation. It was the presentation itself that gave rise to this whole incident.

That makes it not only a case of bullying - which he might not have intended it to be - but a bad error of judgement. Do we the players want someone who makes these sort of bad judgement calls as CSM chair? Poor judgement makes for a poor leader - and so there's another reason for the CSM to let him go.

Once you break it down, there's not really an upside to letting him stay... unless you hope "it'll blow over", which we know is pie in the sky. Every CSM press release, or news story will link back to this as long as Alex remains CSM chair. It's not going to go away.
Samantha Rockpile
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2608 - 2012-03-28 13:57:15 UTC
Lomarro wrote:
DarkWrath wrote:
Rhinanna wrote:
Jesus....

Seriously, he made a ****-up while pissed, then soon as he realised what he had done, apologized and tried to make amends.

I can't see how he could of been expected to do much more than what he has already done, the mistake is already made, if the person he insulted has accepted the apology and I hope mittans sent him a chunk of ISK as well, then its story over. Everyone makes mistakes.

He may be a goon and a lawyer but he is still a human being, vaguely at least ;)

PS. Not a goon, never been a goon and not a Mittani fan, but fair is fair after all.



Two things:


  • He's an elected official representing thousands of players, because of this his actions are scrutinized. The fact that he's drunk does not excuse his actions.

  • Imo the only reason he apologized is because of the shitstorm his comments have created, if this had not been blown out of proportion like it has he wouldn't have cared.



why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs



Really?!... Link Proof or it never happened. And most criminals caught with drugs after an offense get another charge added on to whatever they where doing wrong.

By your logic if I ram into a car full of a young family and kill them all I can just say oh well I was drunk sorry.
Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2609 - 2012-03-28 13:59:22 UTC
Taihbea wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Lomarro wrote:
why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs

Do they? What kind of crappy third world country do you live in, that's pathetic.


Some shithole that's for sure. In here you won't find a way to get out of trouble if there was ANY alcohol involved.



Humm i know countries where presidents had its toy licked at office and walked clean from it.

[b]~ 10.058 ~

Free The Mittani[/b]
Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2610 - 2012-03-28 14:03:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Welsige
DarkWrath wrote:


Two things:


  • He's an elected official representing thousands of players, because of this his actions are scrutinized. The fact that he's drunk does not excuse his actions.

  • Imo the only reason he apologized is because of the shitstorm his comments have created, if this had not been blown out of proportion like it has he wouldn't have cared.




Is he runing a country of someting? No.

He already appologised to the player and said player is 10bil richer, and at that point the guy was completely ignorant as to what was happening.

More than enough by my book.

IMO this thread is far more bullying than the declaration at the pannel.

To fart on someones face is bad. To keep reminding the fart victim of the smell is far worse.

[b]~ 10.058 ~

Free The Mittani[/b]
Samantha Rockpile
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2611 - 2012-03-28 14:03:53 UTC
Welsige wrote:
Taihbea wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Lomarro wrote:
why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs

Do they? What kind of crappy third world country do you live in, that's pathetic.


Some shithole that's for sure. In here you won't find a way to get out of trouble if there was ANY alcohol involved.



Humm i know countries where presidents had its toy licked at office and walked clean from it.


BUT....It didn't involve alcohol.
Lomarro
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2612 - 2012-03-28 14:04:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Lomarro
Samantha Rockpile wrote:
Lomarro wrote:
DarkWrath wrote:
Rhinanna wrote:
Jesus....

Seriously, he made a ****-up while pissed, then soon as he realised what he had done, apologized and tried to make amends.

I can't see how he could of been expected to do much more than what he has already done, the mistake is already made, if the person he insulted has accepted the apology and I hope mittans sent him a chunk of ISK as well, then its story over. Everyone makes mistakes.

He may be a goon and a lawyer but he is still a human being, vaguely at least ;)

PS. Not a goon, never been a goon and not a Mittani fan, but fair is fair after all.



Two things:


  • He's an elected official representing thousands of players, because of this his actions are scrutinized. The fact that he's drunk does not excuse his actions.

  • Imo the only reason he apologized is because of the shitstorm his comments have created, if this had not been blown out of proportion like it has he wouldn't have cared.



why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs



Really?!... Link Proof or it never happened. And most criminals caught with drugs after an offense get another charge added on to whatever they where doing wrong.

By your logic if I ram into a car full of a young family and kill them all I can just say oh well I was drunk sorry.


a man goes on the streets and intentionally kills someone else.
another man does the same but is so drugged he can barely walk

which one gets the harder punishment?
Yanto Widowmaker
Spaceship Jihad
#2613 - 2012-03-28 14:05:29 UTC
Wow! Before I had a sense of pride about being an EvE player.

Matanni, you ruined the image of my game in the eyes of the world! Ugh
KanashiiKami
#2614 - 2012-03-28 14:06:57 UTC
cmon CCP ... ban alex giantwadshisname (aka mittani )... all accounts

WUT ???
KanashiiKami
#2615 - 2012-03-28 14:08:23 UTC
Yanto Widowmaker wrote:
Wow! Before I had a sense of pride about being an EvE player.

Matanni, you ruined the image of my game in the eyes of the world! Ugh


i agree

cmon CCP ... lets see some full account bans ...

WUT ???
KanashiiKami
#2616 - 2012-03-28 14:10:06 UTC
Lomarro wrote:
Samantha Rockpile wrote:
Lomarro wrote:
DarkWrath wrote:
Rhinanna wrote:
Jesus....

Seriously, he made a ****-up while pissed, then soon as he realised what he had done, apologized and tried to make amends.

I can't see how he could of been expected to do much more than what he has already done, the mistake is already made, if the person he insulted has accepted the apology and I hope mittans sent him a chunk of ISK as well, then its story over. Everyone makes mistakes.

He may be a goon and a lawyer but he is still a human being, vaguely at least ;)

PS. Not a goon, never been a goon and not a Mittani fan, but fair is fair after all.



Two things:


  • He's an elected official representing thousands of players, because of this his actions are scrutinized. The fact that he's drunk does not excuse his actions.

  • Imo the only reason he apologized is because of the shitstorm his comments have created, if this had not been blown out of proportion like it has he wouldn't have cared.



why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs



Really?!... Link Proof or it never happened. And most criminals caught with drugs after an offense get another charge added on to whatever they where doing wrong.

By your logic if I ram into a car full of a young family and kill them all I can just say oh well I was drunk sorry.


a man goes on the streets and intentionally kills someone else.
another man does the same but is so drugged he can barely walk

which one gets the harder punishment?


bottomline ... they are both wrong

and so is mittani

account ban pls tyvm CCP

WUT ???
Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2617 - 2012-03-28 14:10:27 UTC
Samantha Rockpile wrote:
Welsige wrote:
Taihbea wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Lomarro wrote:
why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs

Do they? What kind of crappy third world country do you live in, that's pathetic.


Some shithole that's for sure. In here you won't find a way to get out of trouble if there was ANY alcohol involved.



Humm i know countries where presidents had its toy licked at office and walked clean from it.


BUT....It didn't involve alcohol.



Just crapy world dont have to be thrird worlds.

BTW, are you showing prejudice against 3rd world countries? Should i report you?

Hummm..... these bullyies are all around, you know.

People should look at their own belly buttons sometimes.

[b]~ 10.058 ~

Free The Mittani[/b]
low26
Phantom Space
Space Madness.
#2618 - 2012-03-28 14:10:38 UTC
Welsige wrote:
Taihbea wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Lomarro wrote:
why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs

Do they? What kind of crappy third world country do you live in, that's pathetic.


Some shithole that's for sure. In here you won't find a way to get out of trouble if there was ANY alcohol involved.



Humm i know countries where presidents had its toy licked at office and walked clean from it.


First off he was not in trouble for "getting his toy licked" he was in trouble for lying to a grand jury. He was also impeached by the House of Representatives for it but there was not enough votes in his Senate trial to remove him from office. He also lost his law license and was barred from ever arguing in front of the Supreme Court. So there were consequences for his actions.
Samantha Rockpile
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2619 - 2012-03-28 14:10:43 UTC
Lomarro wrote:
Samantha Rockpile wrote:
Lomarro wrote:
DarkWrath wrote:
Rhinanna wrote:
Jesus....

Seriously, he made a ****-up while pissed, then soon as he realised what he had done, apologized and tried to make amends.

I can't see how he could of been expected to do much more than what he has already done, the mistake is already made, if the person he insulted has accepted the apology and I hope mittans sent him a chunk of ISK as well, then its story over. Everyone makes mistakes.

He may be a goon and a lawyer but he is still a human being, vaguely at least ;)

PS. Not a goon, never been a goon and not a Mittani fan, but fair is fair after all.



Two things:


  • He's an elected official representing thousands of players, because of this his actions are scrutinized. The fact that he's drunk does not excuse his actions.

  • Imo the only reason he apologized is because of the shitstorm his comments have created, if this had not been blown out of proportion like it has he wouldn't have cared.



why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs



Really?!... Link Proof or it never happened. And most criminals caught with drugs after an offense get another charge added on to whatever they where doing wrong.

By your logic if I ram into a car full of a young family and kill them all I can just say oh well I was drunk sorry.


a man goes on the streets and intentionally kills someone else.
another man does the same but is so drugged he can barrely walk

which one gets the harder punishment?


1. Depends on the JURY they decide (Playerbase)
2. They both get jail time regardless.
3. Both suffer from a life of trying to recover from something in their life they cant change.
4. Possible Monetary payments depending on Civil suit. (If One)
5. Both can never get a decent restart on life as they are both labeled threats to society.

I don't really see much difference in the punishment.
Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2620 - 2012-03-28 14:12:36 UTC
Yanto Widowmaker wrote:
Wow! Before I had a sense of pride about being an EvE player.

Matanni, you ruined the image of my game in the eyes of the world! Ugh



The world dont care. It plays world of warcraft.

[b]~ 10.058 ~

Free The Mittani[/b]