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CSM The Mittani's Misconduct Calls for Resignation - We Did It!

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Inovy Dacella
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#2401 - 2012-03-27 22:43:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Inovy Dacella
Nothing can save him from being banned, just read this article and you'll see why. Before he apologized he wrote "deal with it". He did not stop digging even after the scandal. He is totally arrogant about the whole issue.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/
Dismas Ofstedal
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2402 - 2012-03-27 22:44:45 UTC
Norian Lonark wrote:
Having watched the video (didn't watch it at the time but with all these comments decided to watch it) I personally feel like the comments and impact are being blown out of proportion.

I think most people who have ever experienced depression or known someone who suffers depression know that other peoples comments don't really make any difference, positive or negative that is what makes it so hard for families and friends because they are powerless to help. The individual has to work it out for themselves.

This is a game and if your getting that worked up about it, its not really fair to hold someone else responsible for it. If I lose a ship or blow someone else's ship up playing a game and they get upset about it should I expect to become responsible for the life of that person in RL?

If someone is feeling that bad in RL they need to take responsibility and go and seek professional help for their own well-being, their family and their friends you cant blame people who you have never met playing an internet spaceship game.


Finally found a post with something to say.

IF, and I repeat, IF Wis is that caught up with depression to the point that he would express suicidal thoughts in public, he should immediately stop playing a heartless, hard knocks game, and seek professional help.

If he's just trolling, then he needs to STFU. There are many other people struggling with RL issues that don't whine about it.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2403 - 2012-03-27 22:47:56 UTC
There are way to many post about this on the first page of the forums.

Why is the player base stinking everything up here? This is something CCP needs to deal with so let them deal with it. And NO, it is not for them to say yes we are doing something about it. If they are leave them to complete and lets see what the result of that is.

The GOONS might not be the most popular group of players around so it comes to reason that you will see these post flying around attacking Mittani like this. I am not a fan either, but i will not stoop so low as the a certain group of players have on these forums. From most of the threads and post it seems majority of people are alts and Carebears. Carebears, as much as they complain about shyte that involves them, here it seems they are also the most vindictive and spitefull group of players I have ever seen, good job.

You guys are saying Mittani are doing the game alot of damage after his comments? Your actions right now is doing alot more damage than Mittani has in not allowing CCP to deal with it on their own. Stop your self imposed entitlement and let those that have the power to deal with it ,deal with it.


"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Trask II
Perkone
Caldari State
#2404 - 2012-03-27 22:48:20 UTC
Quote:
Off with his head.
Its one thing to troll in game, but it is another thing to take eve into RL and troll in real life.

Definition for cyber bullying:
Web definitions:
Cyberbullying "involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior...



Also, by that definition, Mittens is not guilty of bullying. Idiots like you make it sound like he was convoing this guy all day, posting on his facebook, etc, encouraging him to commit suicide. Making one offhand comment, no matter how offensive you might find it, is not cyberbullying, or any other kind of bullying. Blowing peoples' **** up in Eve is not bullying, no matter how much or how often you do it. You don't like it, go play something else.

Anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves and everyone else, for no reason aside from whipping up an ignorant mob to cry for Mittani to be punished, and probably only because they hate him and the Goons. I wouldn't **** on people like that if they were on fire. I can't believe he even felt it necessary to make an apology. You people don't deserve an apology from anyone but your parents and God, for your fail DNA.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2405 - 2012-03-27 22:48:59 UTC
Inovy Dacella wrote:
Nothing can save him from being banned, just read this article and you'll see why. Before he apologized he wrote "deal with it". He did not stop digging even after the scandal. He is totally arrogant about the whole issue.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/


You mean the scandal that didn't erupt until the fat ******** pubbies and LEETPVP alts realized that Mittani had, gasp, won again?
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#2406 - 2012-03-27 22:49:09 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
There are way to many post about this on the first page of the forums.

Why is the player base stinking everything up here? This is something CCP needs to deal with so let them deal with it. And NO, it is not for them to say yes we are doing something about it. If they are leave them to complete and lets see what the result of that is.

The GOONS might not be the most popular group of players around so it comes to reason that you will see these post flying around attacking Mittani like this. I am not a fan either, but i will not stoop so low as the a certain group of players have on these forums. From most of the threads and post it seems majority of people are alts and Carebears. Carebears, as much as they complain about shyte that involves them, here it seems they are also the most vindictive and spitefull group of players I have ever seen, good job.

You guys are saying Mittani are doing the game alot of damage after his comments? Your actions right now is doing alot more damage than Mittani has in not allowing CCP to deal with it on their own. Stop your self imposed entitlement and let those that have the power to deal with it ,deal with it.

Amen to that.
Rutherford Rainman
The Actual US Department of Energy
#2407 - 2012-03-27 22:50:42 UTC
I don't understand how this is taking so long to resolve what should be a simple issue.
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#2408 - 2012-03-27 22:51:04 UTC
Dismas Ofstedal wrote:
Norian Lonark wrote:
Having watched the video (didn't watch it at the time but with all these comments decided to watch it) I personally feel like the comments and impact are being blown out of proportion.

I think most people who have ever experienced depression or known someone who suffers depression know that other peoples comments don't really make any difference, positive or negative that is what makes it so hard for families and friends because they are powerless to help. The individual has to work it out for themselves.

This is a game and if your getting that worked up about it, its not really fair to hold someone else responsible for it. If I lose a ship or blow someone else's ship up playing a game and they get upset about it should I expect to become responsible for the life of that person in RL?

If someone is feeling that bad in RL they need to take responsibility and go and seek professional help for their own well-being, their family and their friends you cant blame people who you have never met playing an internet spaceship game.


Finally found a post with something to say.

IF, and I repeat, IF Wis is that caught up with depression to the point that he would express suicidal thoughts in public, he should immediately stop playing a heartless, hard knocks game, and seek professional help.

If he's just trolling, then he needs to STFU. There are many other people struggling with RL issues that don't whine about it.

Amen to this too. Having been in a fairly similar situation to what Wis claims to be going through a few years ago, I am extremely cynical when it comes to his claims of 'depression' and 'suicidal thoughts'.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2409 - 2012-03-27 22:52:03 UTC
Xython wrote:
Inovy Dacella wrote:
Nothing can save him from being banned, just read this article and you'll see why. Before he apologized he wrote "deal with it". He did not stop digging even after the scandal. He is totally arrogant about the whole issue.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/


You mean the scandal that didn't erupt until the fat ******** pubbies and LEETPVP alts realized that Mittani had, gasp, won again?



He didnt do it until the end of fanfest you noob.

How are we supposed to react before he sends harassment horde after a guy to kill him.

Are you from the future?

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2410 - 2012-03-27 22:52:37 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
There are way to many post about this on the first page of the forums.

Why is the player base stinking everything up here? This is something CCP needs to deal with so let them deal with it. And NO, it is not for them to say yes we are doing something about it. If they are leave them to complete and lets see what the result of that is.


Yes and no.

As I have said there is no need for him to be publicly hanged, drawn and quarterd, they do however need to say they are looking into it and will come to a decison when they have finished.

However what they do is none of our concern and our opinions on what should happen are irrelevant. People only have to know that if it is needed something will be done that is it. Justice only needs to be done it does not need to be seen to be done as then it becomes more about revenge than justice.
Kairos Antilles
Doomheim
#2411 - 2012-03-27 22:53:27 UTC
Karadion wrote:
For me, if my actions caused another person to threaten to kill themselves, why am I responsible? They make the choices themselves and I will never ever care. It has nothing to do with being a sociopath. It has to do with poor decisions that people make every day.


sociopath: a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

Any questions?
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2412 - 2012-03-27 22:53:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Snow Axe
RougeOperator wrote:
He didnt do it until the end of fanfest you noob.

How are we supposed to react before he sends harassment horde after a guy to kill him.

Are you from the future?


The alliance presentation (where he said DOSE MEAN THINGS!!!) was on Friday
Election results Saturday
Dramabomb about this all Sunday/Monday

DERP DERP DERP I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M ACTUALLY USPET ABOUT ANYMORE MITTANI MUST GO

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2413 - 2012-03-27 22:55:49 UTC
Rutherford Rainman wrote:
I don't understand how this is taking so long to resolve what should be a simple issue.


Because what we see as simple may not actually be so. We have no idea what extra things a CSM or someone invited to speak at the event have to agree to. As such it could be alittle more complicated than we think.

Also there is the being stuck between arock and ahrd place at the moment. Temps are running a tad too high for them to make a decision that would not blow up one way or the other. It is better to look at it rationally as opposed to knee jerking to "public outcry" which makes for bad decision, game rule changes and yes even law.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2414 - 2012-03-27 22:55:50 UTC
Kalathia Eginald wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
There are way to many post about this on the first page of the forums.

Why is the player base stinking everything up here? This is something CCP needs to deal with so let them deal with it. And NO, it is not for them to say yes we are doing something about it. If they are leave them to complete and lets see what the result of that is.


Yes and no.

As I have said there is no need for him to be publicly hanged, drawn and quarterd, they do however need to say they are looking into it and will come to a decison when they have finished.

However what they do is none of our concern and our opinions on what should happen are irrelevant. People only have to know that if it is needed something will be done that is it. Justice only needs to be done it does not need to be seen to be done as then it becomes more about revenge than justice.


Quoting a specific part of my post, makes what I said in a whole irrelevent. Don't do that.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#2415 - 2012-03-27 22:58:07 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Xython wrote:
Inovy Dacella wrote:
Nothing can save him from being banned, just read this article and you'll see why. Before he apologized he wrote "deal with it". He did not stop digging even after the scandal. He is totally arrogant about the whole issue.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/


You mean the scandal that didn't erupt until the fat ******** pubbies and LEETPVP alts realized that Mittani had, gasp, won again?



He didnt do it until the end of fanfest you noob.

How are we supposed to react before he sends harassment horde after a guy to kill him.

Are you from the future?

*sigh*

Have you actually seen the footage from friday, or are you just jumping on the bandwagon with everyone else?
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2416 - 2012-03-27 22:58:49 UTC
In short.. My post said.

You ******* People should be ashamed of yourself at the way your dealing with this. This coming from sober people.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2417 - 2012-03-27 23:02:18 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Quoting a specific part of my post, makes what I said in a whole irrelevent. Don't do that.


Then I appologise for my actions.
low26
Phantom Space
Space Madness.
#2418 - 2012-03-27 23:06:21 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
There are way to many post about this on the first page of the forums.

Why is the player base stinking everything up here? This is something CCP needs to deal with so let them deal with it. And NO, it is not for them to say yes we are doing something about it. If they are leave them to complete and lets see what the result of that is.

The GOONS might not be the most popular group of players around so it comes to reason that you will see these post flying around attacking Mittani like this. I am not a fan either, but i will not stoop so low as the a certain group of players have on these forums. From most of the threads and post it seems majority of people are alts and Carebears. Carebears, as much as they complain about shyte that involves them, here it seems they are also the most vindictive and spitefull group of players I have ever seen, good job.

You guys are saying Mittani are doing the game alot of damage after his comments? Your actions right now is doing alot more damage than Mittani has in not allowing CCP to deal with it on their own. Stop your self imposed entitlement and let those that have the power to deal with it ,deal with it.





I am a paying member of this game and as that I have every right to post my opinions here. And If I do not want to be represented by a complete asshat I have every right to tell CCP that.

I disagree that discourse on the forums against what was a stupid act is somehow as demeaning to this game as what Mittens did. What comes around goes around and this time the Goons trolling bit them in the ass . All the Goon alts running interference for him won't change what happened. ~Deal with that~
de4deye
Phantom Space
Space Madness.
#2419 - 2012-03-27 23:14:21 UTC
Mittens, get drunk and make another public speech. You might as well just keep doing what you've been doing, since you cannot escape from this anyways.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2420 - 2012-03-27 23:14:42 UTC
low26 wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
There are way to many post about this on the first page of the forums.

Why is the player base stinking everything up here? This is something CCP needs to deal with so let them deal with it. And NO, it is not for them to say yes we are doing something about it. If they are leave them to complete and lets see what the result of that is.

The GOONS might not be the most popular group of players around so it comes to reason that you will see these post flying around attacking Mittani like this. I am not a fan either, but i will not stoop so low as the a certain group of players have on these forums. From most of the threads and post it seems majority of people are alts and Carebears. Carebears, as much as they complain about shyte that involves them, here it seems they are also the most vindictive and spitefull group of players I have ever seen, good job.

You guys are saying Mittani are doing the game alot of damage after his comments? Your actions right now is doing alot more damage than Mittani has in not allowing CCP to deal with it on their own. Stop your self imposed entitlement and let those that have the power to deal with it ,deal with it.





I am a paying member of this game and as that I have every right to post my opinions here. And If I do not want to be represented by a complete asshat I have every right to tell CCP that.

I disagree that discourse on the forums against what was a stupid act is somehow as demeaning to this game as what Mittens did. What comes around goes around and this time the Goons trolling bit them in the ass . All the Goon alts running interference for him won't change what happened. ~Deal with that~


I'm al for voicing my concerns if I have an issue. But people took it to far, now they are the proverbial MOB with torches and pitchforks. That's the issue I have. Any sensible arguement somebody might have will be drowned in a sea of hatred of those that only care about mob justice... (see what I did there?)

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk