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Von Mellenthin
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2461 - 2012-03-27 22:38:57 UTC
Yeep wrote:
Abriael VonRosen wrote:

See, the problem is that a representative deserving of my respect would have already determined ad issued those consequences by himself. That's what resigning is for.


The world would be a lot better place if there were less kneejerk resignations from people who are otherwise very good at their jobs. How many talented and dedicated politicians have we lost to affairs?


A product of the zero-defect society we live in now. Have to remember we are all human and some of us like to drink beer.
Voull
Visional
#2462 - 2012-03-27 22:40:05 UTC
Karim alRashid wrote:
Voull wrote:
I'm new to this game but can tell that if this was anyone else, they would have been banned already.


Perhaps you should refrain from posting opinions until you are less new to this game?


I don't have to be a veteran of EVE to be able to tell this mittani guy has issues
Fenris Deka
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2463 - 2012-03-27 22:40:32 UTC
Voull wrote:
I'm embarassed to tell people I play this game now

If you are going to quit, could I perhaps get your isk and any other assets you wish to part with? I'll put em to to good use.

I for one am glad to tell people I play this game. It's the only MMO that remotely has a community like this, that are not afraid to take a stand on any issue or any side of an issue. It's one of the many reasons I love and will continue to play this game.

My only regret is that I sold some characters that I never should have sold, and never should have taken "I quit" breaks, because those are pointless. The game is just too good to quit, no matter what issues or what have you come up.
Jita Alt666
#2464 - 2012-03-27 22:40:37 UTC
Von Mellenthin wrote:
Yeep wrote:
Abriael VonRosen wrote:

See, the problem is that a representative deserving of my respect would have already determined ad issued those consequences by himself. That's what resigning is for.


The world would be a lot better place if there were less kneejerk resignations from people who are otherwise very good at their jobs. How many talented and dedicated politicians have we lost to affairs?


A product of the zero-defect society we live in now. Have to remember we are all human and some of us like to drink beer.


and say dumb ****
Abriael VonRosen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2465 - 2012-03-27 22:41:31 UTC
GallowsCalibrator wrote:

Unfortunately we don't know that such decisions have already been made, either. Hence the need for patience on all of this; throwing more fuel on the fire isn't going to put it out any quicker.


That's exactly the problem. Those decisions shouldn't be needed. A representative worthy of any degree of respect would have already took the decision by himself.

As for putting the fire out, i'm sure many have a vested interest in that outcome, but that would be no diffeerent than sweeping the problem under the carpet. I know for a fact that a portion of the gaming press can't wait for that outcome. I can already imagine the headlines.

Mittani himself has never looked like someone interested in putting out fires, quite the opposite, apparently that doesn't apply when he's the one on fire. Roll
Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2466 - 2012-03-27 22:45:22 UTC
Von Mellenthin wrote:
A product of the zero-defect society we live in now. Have to remember we are all human and some of us like to drink beer.


Yet the people we vote to represent us are and must be held to a higher standard than the rest of society as they are there to make decisions that can affect our lives for a long time to come, whether that is real world or game lives. they should also know to control themselves in public situation.

However when they do make a mistake an appology should be given and they should show they have learnt form it. This shows some level of strength of character. If however they repeat it again and agina then they need to step down.
David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2467 - 2012-03-27 22:48:06 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
L00B wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:


Its about the next person that might not be stable enough to not be pushed to far.

Try actually reading my posts.



Oh, we're reading them. You're talking about defending someone that may or may not exist, but may definitely exist in some version of the future that has or has not come true yet.

In other words, it's hypothetical bullshit.


In other words, if you were in charge of CCP's legal dept, you would wait until we have an actual dead body before taking any sort of unnecessary and irreversible action...


I think you might be onto something. Lets go with this.
Inovy Dacella
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#2468 - 2012-03-27 22:48:21 UTC
Nothing can save him from being banned, just read this article and you'll see why. Before he apologized he wrote "deal with it". He did not stop digging even after the scandal. He is totally arrogant about the whole issue.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2469 - 2012-03-27 22:49:05 UTC
Has anyone else noticed how quiet CCP is about this. One would think an investigation involving life footage with CCP employees standing watch would be rather easily concluded.

Regardless of the strings that might have been pulled to extract this apology, it seems this matter is closed now.

[i]" Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "[/i]
Yeep
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2470 - 2012-03-27 22:49:33 UTC
Inovy Dacella wrote:
Nothing can save him from being banned, just read this article and you'll see why. Before he apologized he wrote "deal with it". He did not stop digging even after the scandal. He is totally arrogant about the whole issue.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/


Did you have to get someone to read that article to you because you're clearly incapable of reading the first post in this thread.
Yeep
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2471 - 2012-03-27 22:50:24 UTC
Adalun Dey wrote:
Has anyone else noticed how quiet CCP is about this. One would think an investigation involving life footage with CCP employees standing watch would be rather easily concluded.

Regardless of the strings that might have been pulled to extract this apology, it seems this matter is closed now.



Quiet apart from that one ISD dude plastering the guy being harassed's name all over the login screen.
Amity Lane
Hek Mining Association
#2472 - 2012-03-27 22:51:57 UTC
Adalun Dey wrote:
Has anyone else noticed how quiet CCP is about this. One would think an investigation involving life footage with CCP employees standing watch would be rather easily concluded.

Regardless of the strings that might have been pulled to extract this apology, it seems this matter is closed now.


Sometimes silence is an answer.

Personally, I'd prefer that CCP don't get involved directly unless they have to. This is a community event about a community-elected official's conduct, so let the community sort it out.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2473 - 2012-03-27 22:52:13 UTC
Yeep wrote:
Adalun Dey wrote:
Has anyone else noticed how quiet CCP is about this. One would think an investigation involving life footage with CCP employees standing watch would be rather easily concluded.

Regardless of the strings that might have been pulled to extract this apology, it seems this matter is closed now.



Quiet apart from that one ISD dude plastering the guy being harassed's name all over the login screen.


yeah, but to do so, he would have had to have given the ISD permission. Personal experience with the news, they gotta ask you if it is alright to reference you before they put the name in.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Mana Potion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2474 - 2012-03-27 22:52:44 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:
Mana Potion wrote:
I guess what bugs me is that none of these people that are complaining, have anything to do with the situation... they are just jumping up and down because they have some preconceived notion about the Mittani. None of these "I don't accept your apology" responses mean a damn thing.


if all else fails , read his own post ...

he (and me, and many other ) thinks such behavior is not acceptable

and he will resign, with is a move i honor

no need to defense him , he already has accepted his error and the consequences resulting out of it







And this directly effects you how? Don't bother I can pretty much guess how much you have riding on this situation...

Literally nothing from this situation directly effects you. Who cares whether you think its something you believe is best. You don't matter in the issue.
Tyke Orlieveit
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2475 - 2012-03-27 22:53:46 UTC
Yeep wrote:
Abriael VonRosen wrote:

See, the problem is that a representative deserving of my respect would have already determined ad issued those consequences by himself. That's what resigning is for.


The world would be a lot better place if there were less kneejerk resignations from people who are otherwise very good at their jobs. How many talented and dedicated politicians have we lost to affairs?

Edit: And how about we ask HP how they're doing since firing their CEO over his affair?



I agree, but the problem is that if they are proven unethical ( Let's not start on the who votes for what goatfuck of a policy this week depending what their paymasters demand for now.. ) by the unfaithfulness, then due to the morals imprinted on us and drilled in, they are deemed a "Bad Person" and "Untrustworthy", I mean the mainstream media eats this **** up when someone their paper is aligned against screws up.

I see politics and politicians as nothing more than a expensive, and crippled version of Kindergarten, and a detriment to progress at best. I wish I knew a better way that would actually work.

Start actually making Long Term Plans that will survive your election, that are Good Ideas that will benefit everyone, show them the figures, and prove it.. and you'll still get **** on because they will manipulate an image of you and misquote as they don't like you.
Karim alRashid
Starboard.
#2476 - 2012-03-27 22:54:18 UTC
Voull wrote:
Karim alRashid wrote:
Voull wrote:
I'm new to this game but can tell that if this was anyone else, they would have been banned already.


Perhaps you should refrain from posting opinions until you are less new to this game?


I don't have to be a veteran of EVE to be able to tell this mittani guy has issues



Perhaps yes, perhaps not, but this is not what you said.

You said "[I] can tell that if this was anyone else, they would have been banned already.", which is entirely different, isn't it ?

Pain is weakness leaving the body http://www.youtube.com/user/AlRashidKarim/videos
Doddy
Excidium.
#2477 - 2012-03-27 22:54:18 UTC
Voull wrote:
I'm embarassed to tell people I play this game now


Good, maybe we will get less whiners that way.
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2478 - 2012-03-27 22:57:22 UTC
Mana Potion wrote:
Lt Pizi wrote:
Mana Potion wrote:
I guess what bugs me is that none of these people that are complaining, have anything to do with the situation... they are just jumping up and down because they have some preconceived notion about the Mittani. None of these "I don't accept your apology" responses mean a damn thing.


if all else fails , read his own post ...

he (and me, and many other ) thinks such behavior is not acceptable

and he will resign, with is a move i honor

no need to defense him , he already has accepted his error and the consequences resulting out of it







And this directly effects you how? Don't bother I can pretty much guess how much you have riding on this situation...

Literally nothing from this situation directly effects you. Who cares whether you think its something you believe is best. You don't matter in the issue.



he (and ME, and many other ) thinks such behavior is not acceptable

should i stfu when i find something not acceptable ?

Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!
Dismas Ofstedal
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2479 - 2012-03-27 22:57:55 UTC
Everybody who disapproves of you and says so is a bully just like everyone who commits a criminal act is now a terrorist.

Welcome to a brave new world of fear and insecurity.
David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2480 - 2012-03-27 22:58:16 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Voull wrote:
I'm embarassed to tell people I play this game now


Good, maybe we will get less whiners that way.


No dice. Just about everyone I've shown it to thought that even the public apology was going too far for what was said and they're subbing up to support him.