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My Apology

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Tyke Orlieveit
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2501 - 2012-03-27 23:15:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyke Orlieveit
*Ignore, Double Post FTL.*
de4deye
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2502 - 2012-03-27 23:15:38 UTC
Krutoj wrote:
de4deye wrote:
Mittens just put out a PR disaster and put CCP's head on a chopping block for the rest of the online community. Mittens didn't only make him and Goonswarm and the CSM look bad, he made CCP and Eve Online look bad to others who don't play this game. CCP will have to force their hand in this issue by removing him from the CSM all together and a possibility of a temporary ban to save themselves PR brownie points. If they don't, well then just face the hellfire that Mittens has aroused.


I still look awesome, thank you very much. Also Eve-O only looks bad to those who dont know it or understand it. Refer to Sandbox..

So how's that investigation going?
Ai Shun
#2503 - 2012-03-27 23:16:42 UTC
Magnus Orin wrote:
If you really, truly, deeply honestly believe that The Mittani was wrong by what he said while drunk at a party in Iceland do this


Let me remind you he did not make his PowerPoint presentation while drunk in Iceland P

Magnus Orin wrote:
Don't vote for him when he runs for CSM 8.


I have a better idea. Everyone that is upset by this, band together and destroy the Goonswarm. Obliterate them. And if you can't handle the thought of harming a precious little flower in EVE Online, vote with your wallet and walk away.
Temulkar Blaine
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2504 - 2012-03-27 23:17:47 UTC
Magnus Orin wrote:
Ok guys. I figured out a solution to this entire dilemma.

It's really simple actually. It's fair, just and lets everyone provide their input and have their say.

If you really, truly, deeply honestly believe that The Mittani was wrong by what he said while drunk at a party in Iceland do this:

Don't vote for him when he runs for CSM 8.

If the majority of the player base don't like him, well hey, he won't get in and everything will be sunshine and rainbows.

That sounds fair doesn't it?



WI used to be such a cool alliance what happened? diminished to a pet corp.

Alexander has been dumb hes going to have to take his medicine. Maybe if he hadnt whored himself to every gaming site doing interviews and presenting himself as the face of the Eve player base the medicine wouldnt taste so bad. Maybe if his ego hadnt been so puffed up with self importance by his percieved role people would be more sympathetic.


Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2505 - 2012-03-27 23:18:47 UTC
Yeep wrote:
de4deye wrote:
Mittens just put out a PR disaster and put CCP's head on a chopping block for the rest of the online community. Mittens didn't only make him and Goonswarm and the CSM look bad, he made CCP and Eve Online look bad to others who don't play this game. CCP will have to force their hand in this issue by removing him from the CSM all together and a possibility of a temporary ban to save themselves PR brownie points. If they don't, well then just face the hellfire that Mittens has aroused.


Do you have literally everyone else in this thread on ignore because you just seem to pop in, make a random, moronic comment with no relevance to the current topic of discussion then leave.

Also I'm still only seeing 4 minor articles about this on a google news search for eve or eve fanfest and nothing outside the gaming press and the comments are mixed. I'd hardly call that a PR disaster.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87322&find=unread

thats a bit old and the comments arnt mixed

dunno if it leaked outside gaming press sofar , but as soon as one picks it up it will spread

Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!

David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#2506 - 2012-03-27 23:19:47 UTC  |  Edited by: David Cedarbridge
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
David Cedarbridge wrote:
Doddy wrote:
Voull wrote:
I'm embarassed to tell people I play this game now


Good, maybe we will get less whiners that way.


No dice. Just about everyone I've shown it to thought that even the public apology was going too far for what was said and they're subbing up to support him.



Don't spend all that Moon goo in one place....Mittens may need it for Damage control.....Cool


If I were getting plex out of moon mining I sure wouldn't be supporting the nerfing of tech as much as I do. That's just stupid and irrational. This may be some sort of shock, but there are people who pay for their accounts.

~page 139~
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2507 - 2012-03-27 23:21:36 UTC
de4deye wrote:
Mittens has aroused.


the whole incident is just profit for ccp. The headlines brought tons of exposure that advertising wouldnt have. not to mention it paints eve as a brutal place, and thats exactly what attracted me to the game in the first place.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#2508 - 2012-03-27 23:23:36 UTC
So what happened exactly? Mittani mocked a guy in RL... no, strike my last, he mocked him on a game-related convention in RL for something he did to him in the game. That's a little low, but no big deal really.

Don't you dare resign over this. Even though I agree that two step would probably be a good chairman too.

.

Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2509 - 2012-03-27 23:24:37 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
de4deye wrote:
Mittens has aroused.


the whole incident is just profit for ccp. The headlines brought tons of exposure that advertising wouldnt have. not to mention it paints eve as a brutal place, and thats exactly what attracted me to the game in the first place.


if this all would be an ingame issue we wouldnt be here

but this is RL stuff , you know somthing outside your room

if you want a brutal place outside of eve .... im sure you know where to go, i would and was there

still like it better in RL safe and nice

Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!

Yeep
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2510 - 2012-03-27 23:25:34 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87322&find=unread

thats a bit old and the comments arnt mixed

dunno if it leaked outside gaming press sofar , but as soon as one picks it up it will spread


Every one of those articles has the Eurogamer article as it's primary source, which cites Twitter as it's primary source, forgive me for not considering them serious news outlets.
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2511 - 2012-03-27 23:26:55 UTC
Yeep wrote:
Lt Pizi wrote:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87322&find=unread

thats a bit old and the comments arnt mixed

dunno if it leaked outside gaming press sofar , but as soon as one picks it up it will spread


Every one of those articles has the Eurogamer article as it's primary source, which cites Twitter as it's primary source, forgive me for not considering them serious news outlets.


thats up to you

but its all over the gaming sites ..

Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!

Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2512 - 2012-03-27 23:27:15 UTC
Terrorfrodo wrote:
So what happened exactly? Mittani mocked a guy in RL... no, strike my last, he mocked him on a game-related convention in RL for something he did to him in the game. That's a little low, but no big deal really.

Don't you dare resign over this. Even though I agree that two step would probably be a good chairman too.


Sum up, he had too many drinks prior and during the alliance board presentation at fanfest. During which, he brought quotes of "carebear tears". This in itself is not the bad part, but mentioned suicide and during the Q&A on the stream, he said people should make him kill himself, gave the user name and told people to grief. Sarcasm, but EULA issues, people having stronger opinions, etc

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Alexandra Alt
Doomheim
#2513 - 2012-03-27 23:27:34 UTC
Yeep wrote:
Lt Pizi wrote:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87322&find=unread

thats a bit old and the comments arnt mixed

dunno if it leaked outside gaming press sofar , but as soon as one picks it up it will spread


Every one of those articles has the Eurogamer article as it's primary source, which cites Twitter as it's primary source, forgive me for not considering them serious news outlets.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

1st stage.
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#2514 - 2012-03-27 23:27:39 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:
if you want a brutal place outside of eve .... im sure you know where to go, i would and was there



You're adorable.
Akai Kvaesir
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
#2515 - 2012-03-27 23:27:39 UTC
Krutoj wrote:
de4deye wrote:
Mittens just put out a PR disaster and put CCP's head on a chopping block for the rest of the online community. Mittens didn't only make him and Goonswarm and the CSM look bad, he made CCP and Eve Online look bad to others who don't play this game. CCP will have to force their hand in this issue by removing him from the CSM all together and a possibility of a temporary ban to save themselves PR brownie points. If they don't, well then just face the hellfire that Mittens has aroused.


I still look awesome, thank you very much. Also Eve-O only looks bad to those who dont know it or understand it. Refer to Sandbox..

Just to be clear, you don't care about growing the playerbase? Awesome, glad your on the CSM. That attitude will really be helpful when DUST launches. You DO want DUST to fail, right?


No matter what you feel about Mittani or what he said, don't forget DUST comes out pretty soon. I for one would like it to be the best damn FPS on PS3 (and I don't even own a ****station) because I love EVE, and I want what CCP showed us at FanFest. You know, all that sexy DX11 tech and whatnot. This flamewar is getting absurd, and while I originally posted my opinions, it's an internal matter for CCP, and whatever is said for and against Mittens retaining the Chair won't matter in the end. Just because CCP stroked your ego at FanFest, does not mean you Goons own the game. Be proud while you can, but don't fly too close to the sun, that epeen of yours might just melt.

Frogblast the Vent Core! When the W'rkncacnter came, Pthia was killed, and Yrro in anger, flung the W'rkncacnter into the sun. The sun burned them, but they swam on its surface.

Ai Shun
#2516 - 2012-03-27 23:28:16 UTC
Yeep wrote:
Every one of those articles has the Eurogamer article as it's primary source, which cites Twitter as it's primary source, forgive me for not considering them serious news outlets.


Fortunately it is 2012 and most gamers will find their gaming related news from sites such as those, blogs and other discussion portals. A few of the more prominent MMO bloggers have picked it up as well. I don't think this is something that will be picked up by the mainstream media though.
Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#2517 - 2012-03-27 23:28:22 UTC
First ever high level wizard ganked in eve online.

You saw it here first folks.

.

Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2518 - 2012-03-27 23:29:15 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:

if this all would be an ingame issue we wouldnt be here

but this is RL stuff , you know somthing outside your room

if you want a brutal place outside of eve .... im sure you know where to go, i would and was there

still like it better in RL safe and nice


it is an ingame issue. it was said at an event where they're encouraged to talk about their game life. Its hard to completely seperate your ingame character with real life personality sometimes. What is said on teamspeak isnt in game. does that mean when i say i'm going to go kill that guy on teamspeak i'm threatening his real life body? No.

And the only reason you're all here is because you're abusing The Wis's personal problems for your own selfish reasons. namely, to remove mittani from csm like you've all been trying and plotting to do for years.

you've all abused the wis, and exposed him to far more ridicule then mittani ever did.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

Volgram
Jester's Fleet
Jester's Alliance
#2519 - 2012-03-27 23:29:19 UTC
I forgive you, Alex Gianturco.

I hope that the rest of the community can do the same.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#2520 - 2012-03-27 23:31:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Fenris Deka wrote:
Voull wrote:
I'm embarassed to tell people I play this game now

If you are going to quit, could I perhaps get your isk and any other assets you wish to part with? I'll put em to to good use.

I for one am glad to tell people I play this game. It's the only MMO that remotely has a community like this, that are not afraid to take a stand on any issue or any side of an issue. It's one of the many reasons I love and will continue to play this game.

My only regret is that I sold some characters that I never should have sold, and never should have taken "I quit" breaks, because those are pointless. The game is just too good to quit, no matter what issues or what have you come up.


Smile
In fact, the only result this ridiculous little dust devil of pompous outrage over a drunken joke is accomplishing is tarnishing EVEs "You have to be tough, thick skinned, and ruthless to play EVE" reputation.

Instead you are making the EVE community look like a bunch of Second Life rejects with delusions of grandeur, while patting yourself on the back for "bringing to justice" a "psychopath" whose only crime was to get drunk and make a bad joke that tortured the victim enough to force him to remark the equivalent of "I've been Cyber what-ed?"

At least it will increase subs, even if it will only be from people who think we're twits.

It's being dealt with by those affected, everything else is just an attention grab.

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