EVE General Discussion

As a CSM he is a representative of the player base and as such is also accountable to the player base as far as if he should resign or not.

They can ask for his resignation if they think it's warranted, but they can't force that resignation request to happen, only CCP can do that once the candidates are elected.

But he's already said that he'll resign, so if he has any decency he'll do just that.

yup, even worse, some key board warrior hardman from eve might come along and really scare us all.

I agree that it should be straightforward. However, the Dust/Sony deal tremendously complicates things.

Is Sony going to want to be associated with a game (Eve) that is known for exceptional douchebaggery on a niche game like Dust? (Even though the Dust-Eve is pretty revolutionary.) Sony has already had more than a few well publicized black eyes, do they really want to risk getting linked to a cyberbullying story or a game that encourages smack talk, bullying, etc.? If you're familiar with the "deep pockets" legal concept, does Sony want to risk being dragged into a lawsuit over Eve douchebaggery? Is Sony going to use this incident as leverage to force CCP to renegotiate the terms of the deal? Is Sony going to require that CCP place content filters, moderators, and other safeguards in place that will either cost CCP a lot or will jeopardize the whole Dust-Eve interaction?

I think Mittani's off the cuff comment is going to have greater repercussions than anyone first realized.

And if my entire quote was used, it would be fairly clear that all of those things are non-issues. The entirety of my post:

"quick question:

How the hell has this made it to 108 pages?

There's all this raging indignation on both sides, and still people are talking about what is a fairly straightforward thing. I won't express my opinion or condemn any single argument. I'll just point out the things that don't make much sense to me.

Only so much can be said about a topic that is so simple. Mittens got drunk, said something at an optional panel that happened to be broadcast on Eve TV for it's entertainment value. He was not calling on the harassment of a real person or an E-mail address that a real person would use to handle all of their day to day activities. His eve persona was under attack (beyond optional), which is nothing new for Eve players. Mittens is not the only person to harrass someone to the point of quitting eve - even if he might be the most public.

These are the facts. No one else has been chastized by CCP or entities outside of Eve for these kinds of grief tactics. Indeed, the Guiding Hand scheme was a large magnet to bring people to Eve. It was not decried by the populace at large. It was praised as a testament to the open sandbox nature of Eve and drew in far more people than would have left as the numbers have clearly shown over the years (from the new marketing guy's presentation).

This all being said, the more fodder you give to the troll, the more power (influence) he will have as that is what Eve is all about at the end of the day. No party is doing anything to damage the reputation of Mittens, and in fact, everyone talking about it is giving him exactly what one party doesn't want him to have (more influence). If you want to kill trolls, the only weapon that works (aside from killing their corporal form) is apathy. Show them that you don't care (by not discussing it) and you will do more damage to said troll and his supporters than a permanent ban from devs or an arrest from law enforcement ever could."

The TL;DR is why is everyone feeding the troll? This is exactly what they want. If Sony was concerned about this 'incident', they have so many others that will cause more user hemoraging than this isolated (in effect only one guy was targetted) incident that WILL play out when Dust hits PS3.

You were ganked by a goon?

If you really wanted to know that you could look it up, but you don't really want to know that, you just want free likes from goons for taunting me. I'll give you your like, and you come back when you learn to internet. You should apply to their alliance BTW. They will give you a good deal on application fees and carriers.

And how CCP will maintain their credibility if they remove at will player-elected representatives? How will CSM be ever taken seriously not as CCP puppets, who can't dare to cross CCP's opinion



From a PR, advertisement and subscriber count point of view, quite probably Mittens has done more good than bad for CCP.

It's pretty obvious that Mittani's misstep is being taken advantage of. Unfortunately, it doesn't really make a difference. Mittani said it. His enemies publicized it. Now public opinion has weighed in, and it's become a serious scandal.

How will CCP have any credibility if they don't remove him? Its not like he said they stuffed up, so they got rid of him. He stuffed up royally and needs to be removed.

eve online, a game of spaceships and now autism.

seriously people.