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CSM The Mittani's Misconduct Calls for Resignation - We Did It!

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hellscure
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2001 - 2012-03-27 11:16:31 UTC
"Give the likes of Baldrick the vote and we'll be back to cavorting druids, death by stoning and dung for dinner"

and we are here...
Heimatar Auctioneer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2002 - 2012-03-27 11:25:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Heimatar Auctioneer
Misunderstood Genius wrote:
The question is: is his apol-lol-gize honest or just by fear to get perma-banned?


Most likely he acted in response to the unanticipated wide public outcry and the spot lights thrown at his misconduct by various news media.

These are the responses from Mittani the Great prior to this debacle and public outcry:

"You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything."

"~10,058~"

He even lies to all of us by telling us that he never incited the players to send mails to provoke him to commit suicide when there is a video that clearly shows that he is delusional and a liar: "Also, I didn't suggest that people evemail the guy. I suggested that they run locator agents on him and blow up his Mackinaws - which is exactly what locators are for. "

Him justifying his misconduct by telling all of us that what he did abides by the spirit of EVE Online: "Crying about people being drunk and partying at Fanfest is like crying about suicide ganking and nonconsensual PvP in the client itself."

Since the beginning, he has seen no error in him inciting thousands of EVE players to provoke an unfortunate guy to commit suicide. He willingly, knowingly, and deliberately showed misconduct because he sincerely believes that there is nothing wrong with doing so. His responses explain his thoughts.

Do not fall for his "apologies." He only wrote this AFTER he got stream of news media covering his misconducts. He was scared of losing the chairmanship.
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#2003 - 2012-03-27 11:25:23 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
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Stop whining. He acted fine


Are you kidding me? Encouraging other players to partake in a possible suicide of a mentally unstable person is "acting fine?"

Its a joke. I know. But it has gone too far.


Anybody who threatens to commit suicide over a video game deserves to be mocked.



YEAH UM NO

Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Cassian Ruvalcava
Elusive Illusions
#2004 - 2012-03-27 11:30:40 UTC
He should be perma banned for breaking the EULA.
mrSebastian
Perkone
Caldari State
#2005 - 2012-03-27 11:31:41 UTC
An honorable man would resign instead of blaming it on alcohol.

You are a disgrace and should not be in the CSM.

Learn some humility.
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2006 - 2012-03-27 11:37:15 UTC
Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:

Hypocritical stuff



Who's being the internet persecution troll now then?

Honestly, get over it. You're looking like some kind of village witch hunt dude, who's after his own 5 minutes of fame.

Ever played on Xbox live or PSN? The behaviour and language on voice chat on those is 100x more inflammatory, racist and homophobic. Go an cry about that please.

The funny thing is, I bet this Wis guy is sitting behind his desk laughing at you all for successfully trolling the crap out of you all and providing several days of hilarious over reaction by a bunch of internet drama llamas.
Orkasm
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2007 - 2012-03-27 11:37:35 UTC
Cassian Ruvalcava wrote:
He should be perma banned for breaking the EULA.


You clearly don't understand EULA's
Joe D'Trader
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2008 - 2012-03-27 11:43:29 UTC
Misunderstood Genius wrote:
The question is: is his apol-lol-gize honest or just by fear to get perma-banned?



Why don't you ask that on your main?
Joe D'Trader
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2009 - 2012-03-27 11:45:03 UTC
Cassian Ruvalcava wrote:
He should be perma banned for breaking the EULA.



Not that I disagree with you, but can you quote exactly where in the EULA he broke a rule, I need section and subsection. You know people always talking about their constitutional rights and many have never read it and claimming rights that don't exist. Yeah it's kinda like that.
CNL Jack Oniel
uber nomad
#2010 - 2012-03-27 11:50:52 UTC
You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee

from EULA
Elena Melkan
Magellanic Itg
Goonswarm Federation
#2011 - 2012-03-27 11:51:01 UTC
Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:
"You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.".

Care to clarify what is so wrong in this comment? I find it a good thing that someone points out how cowardly it is to lurk behind an anonymous name while giving opinions. If your cause matters to you, why not comment on your main character?
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2012 - 2012-03-27 11:59:06 UTC
Joe D'Trader wrote:
Cassian Ruvalcava wrote:
He should be perma banned for breaking the EULA.



Not that I disagree with you, but can you quote exactly where in the EULA he broke a rule, I need section and subsection. You know people always talking about their constitutional rights and many have never read it and claimming rights that don't exist. Yeah it's kinda like that.


Section 8, Article A, second paragraph:

Quote:
You may encounter and converse with people who are rude, offensive, belligerent, and who may use indecent, obscene, and/or threatening or harassing language while playing the Game. You may report any instances of such behavior to CCP. CCP will investigate and take such measures as CCP, in its sole judgment, determines are reasonable under the circumstances. CCP does not guarantee that you will not encounter behavior of others that you may view as insulting, demeaning, offensive, threatening or harassing. You assume all risk associated with playing the Game, and CCP assumes no responsibility for the conduct of any other players, and shall not be liable to you or any other person for their conduct.


CCP cannot be held liable for what happens, therefore it is reasonable for them to fix this problem by banning the offender.

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Heimatar Auctioneer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2013 - 2012-03-27 12:00:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Heimatar Auctioneer
Elena Melkan wrote:
Care to clarify what is so wrong in this comment? I find it a good thing that someone points out how cowardly it is to lurk behind an anonymous name while giving opinions. If your cause matters to you, why not comment on your main character?


Such nonchalant statement makes it clear that Mittani the Great has never taken the issue seriously and that just because he received the most votes (yes, approximately 3% of the active EVE Online accounts), he is letting the players know that he is the sole moral authority in EVE Online.

There is NOTHING WRONG with posting "behind an alt." Just like Mittani the Great, I am an active subscriber of this beloved game. And besides, it would be extremely foolish for me to reveal my identity. Mittani the Great is morally corrupt and contemptible, but there is no dispute that he is also the most powerful player in EVE Online. I won't risk revealing myself until Mittani the Great is dismissed from the CSM.

My identity is the least of anyone's concern. You should contemplate about the irreparable damage that Mittani the Great has caused during the last several days.
Celinei X'Mora
Darkside Harvesting Co.
Space.Ghosts
#2014 - 2012-03-27 12:12:10 UTC
The Mittani shouldn't resign. The reasons are easy explain

This is what we wanted. It's all our fault, the whole community, CCPs included. We knew what kind of morons Goons were and we elected the King of Morons to lead. No reason to feel betrayed, surprised, or shocked. I honestly expected a lot more of this type of thing, I'm just impressed it took a year to get here.

CCP has always made it clear that this type of behavior is acceptable (griefing, cyberbullying, scamming etc) but for some reason, everyone believes its unacceptable in this case because someone has STATED they are suicidal and emotionally unstable. The fact that someone could be emotionally unstable without it being announced is apparently not possible and is therefore allowed within the rules

The point is, we, as a community, have gotten what we asked for, and we share equally in the responsibility. So don't throw The Mittani under the bus because he is acting like he has always acted. Again, he is what we strive to be everyday in Eve, if that were not so, how is it he is our top representative in the CSM

So, sadly, we have to look on this situation and cheer. Again we make headlines. We have made them in a way of our own choosing

Congratulations to the community and to CCP. Keep up the good work.
GeeShizzle MacCloud
#2015 - 2012-03-27 12:18:08 UTC
personally i think mittens shouldnt be banned from the game or leave the CSM at all.. but giving his chairmanship to the candidate with the next highest number of votes sounds reasonable.

despite his failings in keeping his ego and alter-persona in check he still has a lot to give to the game that could well be beneficial. but his ability to LEAD has been compromised.
JTK Fotheringham
Ducks in Outer Space
#2016 - 2012-03-27 12:19:48 UTC  |  Edited by: JTK Fotheringham
Celinei X'Mora wrote:
The Mittani shouldn't resign. The reasons are easy explain

This is what we wanted. It's all our fault, the whole community, CCPs included. We knew what kind of morons Goons were and we elected the King of Morons to lead. No reason to feel betrayed, surprised, or shocked. I honestly expected a lot more of this type of thing, I'm just impressed it took a year to get here.

CCP has always made it clear that this type of behavior is acceptable (griefing, cyberbullying, scamming etc) but for some reason, everyone believes its unacceptable in this case because someone has STATED they are suicidal and emotionally unstable. The fact that someone could be emotionally unstable without it being announced is apparently not possible and is therefore allowed within the rules

The point is, we, as a community, have gotten what we asked for, and we share equally in the responsibility. So don't throw The Mittani under the bus because he is acting like he has always acted. Again, he is what we strive to be everyday in Eve, if that were not so, how is it he is our top representative in the CSM

So, sadly, we have to look on this situation and cheer. Again we make headlines. We have made them in a way of our own choosing

Congratulations to the community and to CCP. Keep up the good work.


We are all to blame and nobody has done anything wrong? Honestly, the world is full of people who do bad things, and some of time they don't get caught. But Mittens is the elected representative of the EVE gaming community, and so a higher standard is expected in what he says out of game.

Truth is, he blurred the line between in-game griefing, and out-of-game cyber-bullying. He did it sober, deliberately, and with the intenion to humiliate. Then he got drunk, delivered his presentation, and made a fool of himself. It's the worst kind of press EVE needs right when you have CCP launching a new marketing drive based on player driven news.

So, no, we are not all to blame.
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2017 - 2012-03-27 12:21:59 UTC
Elena Melkan wrote:
Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:
"You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.".

Care to clarify what is so wrong in this comment? I find it a good thing that someone points out how cowardly it is to lurk behind an anonymous name while giving opinions. If your cause matters to you, why not comment on your main character?

Lots of people have their mains in NPC-corps. Namely the people who don't mind paying 11% of their bounties and mission rewards just to be safe from wardecs.

New to EVE? Want to learn? The Crimson Cartel will train you in the fields of _**your **_choice. Mainly active in EU afternoons and evenings. Contact me for more info.
Karim alRashid
Starboard.
#2018 - 2012-03-27 12:23:59 UTC
I'm so depressed form such a turn of events ... I don't know what to do with myself ... to die, to sleep ... to sleep -- perchance to dream ...

Pain is weakness leaving the body http://www.youtube.com/user/AlRashidKarim/videos
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#2019 - 2012-03-27 12:24:07 UTC
Celinei X'Mora wrote:
We knew what kind of morons Goons were and we elected the King of Morons to lead.


Errm.... don't you mean their space-king-god just told them to vote for him?

Add to that lots of political manipulations, vote buying, account creations.... Shocked

If the CSM is supposed to represent the community, and thus he's supposed to represent the Goons, what does that say about them?

Personally, i think the chairman should be someone that we can ALL look upto, not just the hordes of his faithful Goon worshipers. Should be someone of the highest caliber, representing all that is good and great about eve.

I guess this just proves once and for all that the eve community is full of dicks.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2020 - 2012-03-27 12:26:56 UTC
Celinei X'Mora wrote:
The Mittani shouldn't resign. The reasons are easy explain

This is what we wanted. It's all our fault, the whole community, CCPs included. We knew what kind of morons Goons were and we elected the King of Morons to lead. No reason to feel betrayed, surprised, or shocked. I honestly expected a lot more of this type of thing, I'm just impressed it took a year to get here.

CCP has always made it clear that this type of behavior is acceptable (griefing, cyberbullying, scamming etc) but for some reason, everyone believes its unacceptable in this case because someone has STATED they are suicidal and emotionally unstable. The fact that someone could be emotionally unstable without it being announced is apparently not possible and is therefore allowed within the rules

The point is, we, as a community, have gotten what we asked for, and we share equally in the responsibility. So don't throw The Mittani under the bus because he is acting like he has always acted. Again, he is what we strive to be everyday in Eve, if that were not so, how is it he is our top representative in the CSM

So, sadly, we have to look on this situation and cheer. Again we make headlines. We have made them in a way of our own choosing

Congratulations to the community and to CCP. Keep up the good work.

The only ones who're to blame are the people who voted for The Mittani. Thus, I'm not to blame for any of the stupid things he said at the Fanfest. Why would I be to blame for a griefer's stupid remarks at a gaming-event, when I didn't ever want him in charge of anything and actually voted for someone I believe might be competent?

New to EVE? Want to learn? The Crimson Cartel will train you in the fields of _**your **_choice. Mainly active in EU afternoons and evenings. Contact me for more info.