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CSM The Mittani's Misconduct Calls for Resignation - We Did It!

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Tenga Halaris
Galactic Traders Union
#1701 - 2012-03-27 00:14:33 UTC
Some people should try to figure out what the difference between an avatar in a computer game and a person in reality is. He made a bad joke about an avatar, a fictional figure, in a game.

Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1702 - 2012-03-27 00:14:39 UTC
Darius III wrote:
Resigning as chair really is an empty gesture and shouldnt be taken as a sign of contrition.


It is similar in some ways to what Helcity did when Incarnia was released, threatened harm to a CCP employee.

Stuff like this (mass sending of email to someone to kill themself) can have consequences just as real too.

CCP should be totally impartial about this and let due process take its course.

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Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#1703 - 2012-03-27 00:15:31 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
I'm not sure that sending thousands of tear stained rage EVE mails to CCP is the answer. We might want to restrict it to the ones that don't joke about it in the following sentence. Smile


I mean as a matter of permanent policy. The people who are joking about it are highlighting the farce that is threatening to kill yourself over a video game.

If we are really genuinely concerned about people with suicidal tendencies harming themselves over Eve, then they should be reported to the relevant authorities and banned from the game that is apparently causing them such anguish.
EnderCapitalG
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1704 - 2012-03-27 00:15:43 UTC
https://t.co/qvl5APgI

Mittens posted his apology here.
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1705 - 2012-03-27 00:16:01 UTC
Li Malak wrote:
~10,058~
Deal with it.

The voters have spoken, and they love The Mittani.


The Mittani has spoken, and he hates The Voters.

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Darronis Olachenko
#1706 - 2012-03-27 00:16:17 UTC
Li Malak wrote:
~10,058~
Deal with it.

One-sixth of the voters and their alts have spoken, and they love The Mittani.


ftfy
Sticky Hamster
Nova-Tek
#1707 - 2012-03-27 00:17:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Sticky Hamster
"I'm not sure why you are defending a manchild who got divorced over his addiction to Eve Online through the usage of his 22 accounts. That idiot brought up that he might off himself. Mittani never solicited him to do it in the first place. You're acting that using suicide to get their way is a perfectly acceptable method when it's not. ALl I see here are crybabies looking for an excuse, anything, to get the goons banned from the game. I've scammed at least 80 miners during the mining interdiction and at least 4 of them have threatened to kill themselves if I don't give back their isk. It's not my damn problem that they are willing to try and use it as a bargaining chip. If anything, threatening suicide in this game should be an instant permaban. "

There are drama queens online constantly throwing that threat that they will kill themself around in MMO's.

It has been going on all the way back to DikuMuds on the Telnet many years ago.

Scenario:

You (the playerkiller) kill their character.

They convo you and drop a variation of the phrase, "I'm thinking of killing myself."

THE PERSON THREATENING THIS IS A CLASSIC GRIEFER TRYING TO BAIT YOU INTO GETTING YOURSELF INTO TROUBLE, they are simply trying to get you to violate ingame policy since you defeated them.

Your best reaction at this time is to report them to whatever authority the game has to cover your own backside.

Then you should deny the attention whore what they want most. Attention. Add them to ignore or block them or whatever you do in the game to never read one more character of text that character ever attempts to send to you.

Time will go on and eventually the griefer player will get bored with the game and go be a griefer in another game.

Sticky Hamster

p.s. I STRONGLY agree that if a player threatens suicide the ingame authorities immediately permaban the account. Furthermore I would recommend the game company notify local law enforcement that the person threatened to commit suicide to protect themself from any legal blowback in case the person actually attempts and/or succeeds at suicide.
Shade Severii
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1708 - 2012-03-27 00:17:37 UTC
I love how people think it is morally wrong to bully someone's internet character (I think it is)

BUT they have no moral problem trying to get someone fired from there REAL LIFE job for bullying someones INTERNET CHARACTER

jesus christ
ed jeni
Hax.
#1709 - 2012-03-27 00:17:47 UTC
if mittani resigns then i am assuming all his felching goonie cohorts that were backing him 100% will likewise apologize for worshiping a false idol.

whats that, your all still supporting him ? troll lol loll
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1710 - 2012-03-27 00:18:22 UTC
EnderCapitalG wrote:
https://t.co/qvl5APgI

Mittens posted his apology here.


Reminds me of a situation i read recently, where at a work function, a boss was so drunk, he hugged his PA at the end of the night and said to her he would like to **** her.

Being drunk is NOT an excuse

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Javajunky
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1711 - 2012-03-27 00:18:30 UTC
In the words of Dennis Leary - Life Sucks wear a helmet.

Human beings make me sick, everyone is such a p*ssy, I generally can't stand people anymore. Boo hoo... I got scammed in eve and therefore my life sucks. Christ you knowing played a game this is literally about griefing other people...

What this planet needs - Dariwin Theory of Evolution re-introduced for the human race....

If the guy is dead .... can I haz his stuffz?
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#1712 - 2012-03-27 00:18:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jojo Jackson
Darius III wrote:
Resigning as chair really is an empty gesture and shouldnt be taken as a sign of contrition.

Sorry Darius but statements like this aren't adequate from a CSM member atm ;).
It's not the topic to catch personal profit.

Sueziding is to ... real (?) ... and making jokes of it (from not comercial comedians) is not realy funny.

1) Mittens should open a topic with "Guys, I made a BIG mistake" which should be locked and pined by CCP.

2) CCP should discuss it INTERNAL (but tell us they do it)

3) CSM should discuss it INTERNAL (but tell us they do it)

4) CCP and CSM should discuss it together (but tell us they do it)

5) make results public

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...
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10) time to use it for profit or not ;)

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!

Voith
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1713 - 2012-03-27 00:18:57 UTC
Shade Severii wrote:
I love how people think it is morally wrong to bully someone's internet character (I think it is)

BUT they have no moral problem trying to get someone fired from there REAL LIFE job for bullying someones INTERNET CHARACTER

jesus christ

Because this has **** all to do with Bullying and everything to do with CSM rejects and Titan pilots smelling blood in the water.
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#1714 - 2012-03-27 00:19:04 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:
Vincent VanDamme wrote:
EnderCapitalG wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/Themittani

Just landed. Step one, apologize profusely. Step two, resign. Step three, send all my isk to the victim. Entirely my fault and unacceptable.

Sadly, due to my failings, I was so drunk at the time that I didn't remember what I said until I saw this article. Shameful.

However, being drunk was no excuse - I got myself there, after all.


I dont know if this is troll or truth. If its troll, then :p

If it is true then i have to say one thing:

Alexander Gianturco: this shows class. Utter class. I don't think this is something you would need to resign for, but the willingness to make amends is classy as all hell.

I hope you reconsider. But if you don't, i hope you take this message in the spirit it's sent.

A class act.






i dont have the english phrase
but in german we would say
unter den blinden ist der einaugige könig


In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

I used to be ambivalent to the Mittani's attitude and antics before this, now I'd rather not havie someone who is so incapable of consideration for others when grandstanding to an audience as my representative.

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Avila Cracko
#1715 - 2012-03-27 00:19:12 UTC
Once again,
I will only say this,
presidents and ministers of real life countries resigned for smaller things.

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1716 - 2012-03-27 00:19:44 UTC
Sticky Hamster wrote:
"I'm not sure why you are defending a manchild who got divorced over his addiction to Eve Online through the usage of his 22 accounts. That idiot brought up that he might off himself. Mittani never solicited him to do it in the first place. You're acting that using suicide to get their way is a perfectly acceptable method when it's not. ALl I see here are crybabies looking for an excuse, anything, to get the goons banned from the game. I've scammed at least 80 miners during the mining interdiction and at least 4 of them have threatened to kill themselves if I don't give back their isk. It's not my damn problem that they are willing to try and use it as a bargaining chip. If anything, threatening suicide in this game should be an instant permaban. "

There are drama queens online constantly throwing that threat that they will kill themself around in MMO's.

It has been going on all the way back to DikuMuds on the Telnet many years ago.

Scenario:

You (the playerkiller) kill their character.

They convo you and drop a variation of the phrase, "I'm thinking of killing myself."

THE PERSON THREATENING THIS IS A CLASSIC GRIEFER TRYING TO BAIT YOU INTO GETTING YOURSELF INTO TROUBLE, they are simply trying to get you to violate ingame policy since you defeated them.

Your best reaction at this time is to report them to whatever authority the game has to cover your own backside.

Then you should deny the attention ***** what they want most. Attention. Add them to ignore or block them or whatever you do in the game to never read one more character of text that character ever attempts to send to you.

Time will go on and eventually the griefer player will get bored with the game and go be a griefer in another game.


Or I can just ignore them and move on. I'm not responsible for getting them help.
EnderCapitalG
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1717 - 2012-03-27 00:19:59 UTC
Headerman wrote:
EnderCapitalG wrote:
https://t.co/qvl5APgI

Mittens posted his apology here.


Reminds me of a situation i read recently, where at a work function, a boss was so drunk, he hugged his PA at the end of the night and said to her he would like to **** her.

Being drunk is NOT an excuse


He admits that it's not an excuse, hence the public apology plus other actions he intends to perform.
Li Malak
Perkone
Caldari State
#1718 - 2012-03-27 00:20:20 UTC
Headerman wrote:
Li Malak wrote:
~10,058~
Deal with it.

The voters have spoken, and they love The Mittani.


The Mittani has spoken, and he hates The Voters.


Everyone hates the voters.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1719 - 2012-03-27 00:20:32 UTC
People must realise actions in this supposed 'fantasy' space still carry the same consequnces as RL

If this had happened in a school between the football team and the computer club the same things would apply..

Why should we NOT report to the authorities

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]

Voith
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1720 - 2012-03-27 00:20:48 UTC
Avila Cracko wrote:
Once again,
I will only say this,
presidents and ministers of real life countries resigned for smaller things.

CSM: More Serious than people who actually have armies and can ******* KILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE