EVE General Discussion

If they held another election he would still get twice as many votes as the second place candidate.

Virginia

Half time break, go get more popcorns... while you go get them here is a joke...

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A couple of women were playing golf one sunny Saturday morning.
The first of the twosome teed off and watched in horror as her ball headed directly toward a foursome of men playing the next hole.

Indeed, the ball hit one of the men, and he immediately clasped his hands together at his crotch, fell to the ground and proceeded to roll around in evident agony.

The woman rushed down to the man and immediately began to apologize. She said, "Please allow me to help. I'm a physical therapist and I know I could relieve your pain if you'd allow."

"Ummph, oooh, nnooo, I'll be all right...I'll be fine in a few minutes," he replied breathlessly as he remained in the fetal position still clasping his hands together at his crotch.

But she persisted, and he finally allowed her to help him. She gently took his hands away and laid them to the side, she loosened his pants,and she put her hands inside. She began to massage him.

She then asked him, "How does that feel?"
To which he replied, "It feels great, but my thumb still hurts like hell."

I have 2300 likes. They know who to listen to.

WOW 10,058 accounts voted for the guy in question

are you listening CCP?

Not for long..... Damn either you are his lap dog or you are his alt.... but you are begining to look even more stupid with your fail attempts to defend probably the biggest moron eve has ever produced...

Which part in what you quoted did I say he shopuld be banned or step down? I am comenting on the terms that we all agree to, even you and I. I also said if what he did is against the EULA or TOS or whatever he has to agree to as a CSM, then it is not upto us what happens it is upto those in charge what happens.

That is something you will have to deal with.

Demand a refund.

Game related fuction. Still falls under the EULA and TOS my friend. You goons are funny, little sheep running around protecting dear leader. Where is dear leader at anyway? If he was a real man, he would come say he was sorry and put this whole thing to bed but nope, the little coward is hiding and letting you sheep post away for him.

I watched the thing and the statements that were made.

The comment that The Mittani made about seeking out the player to have him kill himself is the issue.

The Mittani suggested the idea without prompting.



(link to source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=E7Ki91U-mBE#t=4320s)

What should happen is the question.

If The Mittani was just like any other EVE player then CCP wouldn't need to do much more than it is. Say that the forum was uncensored and the views of its participants were their own and not those of CCP. Due to the comment being made CCP was going to initiate its Suicide Watch protocol and monitor the situation carefully.

As CCP I would add the following course of action as well: Give the player in question a name change should the player desire such.

But, The Mittani isn't any other EVE player. He is an elected representative of the playerbase and the chairman of the CSM.

As a member of the CSM he needs to adhere to a fairly broad and lenient manner of behaviour as laid out in the CSM documentation:



The question facing CCP is this, did what The Mittani say in this situation adhere to the EULA/TOS and did he carry himself in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow.

If there is a further agreement that CSM representatives must sign from CCP about their behaviour then that would need to be examined as well by CCP.

The latter part of this question is simple, yes, of course he carried himself in a manner that is an example for others to follow. The example is not stipulated to be bad or good, therefore, simply by being him he is fulfilling that requirement.

So, the question boils down to this: Does The Mittani's behaviour break the EULA or TOS in any manner? Please note, the conditions of the CSM does not limit this behaviour to be within EVE. There is nothing in the documentation that explicitly states that the TOS and EULA need to be adhered to solely within the EVE environment. And, even if it did, one could argue that being at the Fanfast in a sanctioned CCP event would be part of the EVE environment therefore he would need to operate within that framework of behaviour.

If encouraging other players to seek out someone for the purposes of them committing suicide is against either the EULA or TOS of the game then CCP has to remove The Mittani from office.

If the EULA or TOS were not broken by this then CCP doesn't have to do anything.

The Mittani may have broken local 'cyber bullying' laws or similar legislation but since I am not a legal expert I couldn't tell you if he did or not.

I do feel that what he said was not professional or a good depiction of what an EVE player is but, unfortunately, his statements are clearly supported by many EVE players as well. So, perhaps he is properly representing a percentage of the game's population.

I wouldn't support what he said and I would condemn the statement fully. I feel it is reprehensible and disgusting. I feel that it betrays a lack of morality and maturity but that is my own opinion. I consider it to be akin to an attempt to incite people to try and kill another human being.

But, the matter is up for CCP to decide if they feel that The Mittani adheres to their code of conduct and if so they can leave him in place while shaking their heads at the negative press he has given the game. The Mittani is under no obligation to do anything in terms of an apology or stepping down.