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CSM The Mittani's Misconduct Calls for Resignation - We Did It!

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#901 - 2012-03-26 20:39:12 UTC
Duvida wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
If The Mittani does in fact survive this, should I be impressed by his political/survival skills, or should I be disappointed that CCP failed to deal with the issue properly?



I don't think that there will be much left of this 'career'. The media is involved. Right at the moment of this post, it's only MMO-news sites. But as cyber-bullying has been a tragic issue for some time now, the major outlets will likely have articles on it as well. Politicial attention will be gained, and not favorably.

This is all going to happen if nothing further occurs. And we hope that the cyberbully victim does get help, heals and is able to work out a better path of life for himself.



Except that this is not cyber bullying at all.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#902 - 2012-03-26 20:39:33 UTC
EnderCapitalG wrote:
I'm all out of copporn

Pass it around please...

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Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#903 - 2012-03-26 20:39:41 UTC
Duvida wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
If The Mittani does in fact survive this, should I be impressed by his political/survival skills, or should I be disappointed that CCP failed to deal with the issue properly?



I don't think that there will be much left of this 'career'. The media is involved. Right at the moment of this post, it's only MMO-news sites. But as cyber-bullying has been a tragic issue for some time now, the major outlets will likely have articles on it as well. Politicial attention will be gained, and not favorably.

This is all going to happen if nothing further occurs. And we hope that the cyberbully victim does get help, heals and is able to work out a better path of life for himself.



The cyber victim seems to be both mad and amused.
Josef Djugashvilis
#904 - 2012-03-26 20:40:42 UTC
I think The Mittani will resign his role as Chairman of the CSM, as it is the only politically expedient thing to do, thus saving face for himself and CCP.

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Tepron
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#905 - 2012-03-26 20:41:09 UTC
Cyber-bullying is only really tragic due to some parents inability to teach their kids how to separate reality from fiction.
Aileren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#906 - 2012-03-26 20:41:24 UTC
Kattshiro wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Anya Klibor wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.

~10,058~


I'm kind of curious. In the United States, if a lawyer were found to be this insulting towards someone, knowing full well that they were claiming thoughts of suicide and were claiming they'd go through with it, the lawyer would be having a little ol' BAR hearing if it was found out the lawyer acted improperly (i.e., insulting him and pushing him to actually perform the action of taking his own life). I'm rather curious as to how much it will suck for you if your local BAR (or whatever) found out...


I'd be interested to see the regulations that control what a lawyer can say while he is on vacation. Link please?


Actually depending upon the state you can get disbarred for behavior... Not in the capacity of doing your job. Like you can't even take the bar exam if you have prior records etc etc.

I say go old school and let em punch it out in 9 rounds of bar knuckle boxing... Couple O pasty nerds going at it.


Yes but it usually has to be far more serious than drunken craptalking about a game of internet spaceships, and more serious like you're going to prison and can no longer perform your duties to your clients.
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#907 - 2012-03-26 20:41:28 UTC
Lets go for 50...
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#908 - 2012-03-26 20:41:35 UTC
Xython wrote:
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Orkasm wrote:


You really are special arn't you, Do you actually lick windows for fun?


You mad because I can walk away from an MMO and you can't?


But you're not walking away, are you? You're saying how much you're going to walk away on the forums.

Two laws:

1. Anyone saying they're going to kill themselves in a bilateral communication medium (forum, phone, etc) is likely not actually suicidal, they are looking for a reaction.
2. Anyone saying they're going to quit an MMORPG is not actually going to quit the MMORPG, they're just looking for a reaction.


Yes I am walking away from the game. But I will also continue posting here because suicide and bullying is a serious issue that needs addressing and I am dismayed by CCP's lacklustre response. Trust me, you won't see me ingame.
JamesCLK
#909 - 2012-03-26 20:42:12 UTC
Mittens didn't divulge any personal information (no, your character's name isnt personal information) and there are a multitude of ingame mechanics that let you stop people spamming you persistantly.

Moar tears please, I'm running out of drink.

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Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#910 - 2012-03-26 20:42:12 UTC
Random thought: What's Iceland's Cyber Bullying law state about this? Since this took place in Iceland? And thus American law means diddly ******* SQUAT.


What's that? Iceland doesn't have one?


Sucks to be you, pubbie morons! Looks like you're stuck with the Mittani Mandate for another year. Since, you know, HE GOT MORE VOTES THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE CSM.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#911 - 2012-03-26 20:42:26 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Yes I am walking away from the game. But I will also continue posting here because suicide and bullying is a serious issue that needs addressing and I am dismayed by CCP's lacklustre response. Trust me, you won't see me ingame.


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Orkasm
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#912 - 2012-03-26 20:42:45 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Xython wrote:
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Orkasm wrote:


You really are special arn't you, Do you actually lick windows for fun?


You mad because I can walk away from an MMO and you can't?


But you're not walking away, are you? You're saying how much you're going to walk away on the forums.

Two laws:

1. Anyone saying they're going to kill themselves in a bilateral communication medium (forum, phone, etc) is likely not actually suicidal, they are looking for a reaction.
2. Anyone saying they're going to quit an MMORPG is not actually going to quit the MMORPG, they're just looking for a reaction.


Yes I am walking away from the game. But I will also continue posting here because suicide and bullying is a serious issue that needs addressing and I am dismayed by CCP's lacklustre response. Trust me, you won't see me ingame.


Can I have your stuff?
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#913 - 2012-03-26 20:43:24 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:

Yes I am walking away from the game. But I will also continue posting here because suicide and bullying is a serious issue that needs addressing and I am dismayed by CCP's lacklustre response. Trust me, you won't see me ingame.


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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#914 - 2012-03-26 20:43:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Jade;

thanks for the kind words. :)

I would have been fine with an apology if he had offered it either immediately after he sobered up and realized what he had done, or latest when there first was an outrage. After the "deal with it" comment, I am not so sure there is any way I can justify to myself supporting an organization that leaves him in charge. I will consider it, but this is not a case where I want to quit over this, and if I end up leaving I will not leave in a state of rage (and no, you cannot have my stuff ;)). It's just I am not sure I can feel good about myself if I put money into supporting such things, when the apology would obviously not come from his true feelings but be a PR charade supposed to appease cases like me.

I am truly sorry for the 10k voters who were betrayed by him like this - even for those of them who do not feel that he did anything wrong as such. As someone given the trust of so many he should have in the very least realized that there would be an outrage by players not in his voting body, and acted like it - even if he did not believe in any sort of standards in this himself. He's been in the CSM for some time now. Like it or not, he is not "just a player" anymore at events like the Fanfest, and will not be able to be that for some time. He should have acted accordingly. His voters should have been able to trust that he does.
Zleon Leigh
#915 - 2012-03-26 20:44:42 UTC
Xython wrote:
Random thought: What's Iceland's Cyber Bullying law state about this? Since this took place in Iceland? And thus American law means diddly ******* SQUAT.


What's that? Iceland doesn't have one?


Sucks to be you, pubbie morons! Looks like you're stuck with the Mittani Mandate for another year. Since, you know, HE GOT MORE VOTES THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE CSM.



CCP's Atlanta office might open them up to US law...

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#916 - 2012-03-26 20:44:49 UTC
Heres what I found... Apparently eve players are the lowest scum in the universe...

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.357599-Eve-Online-Panel-Encourages-Harassing-Suicidal-Player

I think the :lolcsmchair: might have some problems... Either ways, something's gonna burn lol

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Harrigan VonStudly
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#917 - 2012-03-26 20:45:08 UTC
Anya Klibor wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.

~10,058~


I'm kind of curious. In the United States, if a lawyer were found to be this insulting towards someone, knowing full well that they were claiming thoughts of suicide and were claiming they'd go through with it, the lawyer would be having a little ol' BAR hearing if it was found out the lawyer acted improperly (i.e., insulting him and pushing him to actually perform the action of taking his own life). I'm rather curious as to how much it will suck for you if your local BAR (or whatever) found out...



Mittens being a lawyer has what to do with any of this? Does that fact make it more serious if he were, say, a chef?

People in New York city gather around the sidewalk when someone is standing on the window ledge threatening to jump from the 'umteenth' floor and yell, "jump, jump, jump, jump," repeatedly.
No one is responsible for someone committing suicide. If someone is so mentally unstable that they kill them self over a game they had much much bigger problems and players of the game working within game mechanics and valid game play methods are not the cause.

Agree or disagree with the cooth of what was said the only person responsible for killing them self is THE person committing the self murder.


su·i·cide/ˈso͞oiˌsīd/
Noun:
The action of killing oneself intentionally: "he committed suicide at the age of forty".
Verb:
Intentionally kill oneself.
Synonyms:
noun. self-destruction - self-murder
verb. take one's own life - make away with oneself
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
#918 - 2012-03-26 20:45:46 UTC
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
Jade;

I would have been fine with an apology if he had offered it either immediately after he sobered up and realized what he had done, or latest when there first was an outrage. After the "deal with it" comment, I am not so sure there is any way I can justify to myself supporting an organization that leaves him in charge. I will consider it, but this is not a case where I want to quit over this - it's just I am not sure I can feel good about myself if I put money into supporting such things, when the apology would obviously not come from his true feelings but be a PR charade supposed to appease cases like me.

I am truly sorry for the 10k voters who were betrayed by him like this - even for those of them who do not feel that he did anything wrong as such. As someone given the trust of so many he should have in the very least realized that there would be an outrage by players not in his voting body, and played it more nicely.

He's been in the CSM for some time now. Like it or not, he is not "just a player" anymore at events like the Fanfest, and will not be able to be that for some time. He should have acted accordingly. His voters should have been able to trust that he does.

Self-proclaimed egotistical jerk acts like egotistical jerk. Water is wet, and fire is discovered to be hot. News at 11.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#919 - 2012-03-26 20:45:51 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Xython wrote:
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Orkasm wrote:


You really are special arn't you, Do you actually lick windows for fun?


You mad because I can walk away from an MMO and you can't?


But you're not walking away, are you? You're saying how much you're going to walk away on the forums.

Two laws:

1. Anyone saying they're going to kill themselves in a bilateral communication medium (forum, phone, etc) is likely not actually suicidal, they are looking for a reaction.
2. Anyone saying they're going to quit an MMORPG is not actually going to quit the MMORPG, they're just looking for a reaction.


Yes I am walking away from the game. But I will also continue posting here because suicide and bullying is a serious issue that needs addressing and I am dismayed by CCP's lacklustre response. Trust me, you won't see me ingame.


you are threatening e-suicide because someone who threatened suicide was not defended fast enough

this thread has just gone meta
OfBalance
Caldari State
#920 - 2012-03-26 20:45:56 UTC
Liberal media conspiracy!