EVE General Discussion

I see no evidence that this person is actually suicidal, and not just another dumbass trying to sympathy himself out of a hole.

If you're a pirate, over the years, you will receive several "OMG im suicidally depressed because you blew up my bantam" evemails.

To my knowledge, none of them has ever killed themselves.

poor taste maybe, but it's not like he stabbed a man.

Use some perspective please people...

Wow, if this is true then Mittani is one seriously messed up individual. Far beyond whatever he role plays as in the game. This isn't douchebaggery, this is flat out insanity. No normal person would ever consider doing something like that.

This dude has some serious issues... I wonder what he would do with himself if he didn't have EVE to keep him stable and give him an outlet? Kill the neighborhood cats, I guess.

Crap, you know what? Let him have CSM. Maybe that's the secret the goons all have that makes them support him unanimously. They know he's a ticking timebomb that might go on a shooting spree at his workplace one day if he doesn't have some outlet for craziness. >_> Having him muck up some video game is a small price to pay to keep that from happening.


Edit: Another media coverage post! http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/

Why are people still babbling on about Psychology? It's irrelevant.

The issue is that The Mittani, as a CSM, suggested to people that they break the rules by harassing someone. That's it. It's been said before (self-quoting for the win):

This is starting to get really old really fast. It's as if people are trying to smear literally anything they can get their hands on, on Mittens.
How desperate can you get? This must be a new level of internet lawyer-dom.

Suicide is not a bargaining chip people; if you have issues -- and even the slightest intention of doing something about it -- you would be seeking professional help, not ~threatening~ people over the internet (of all mediums ) with suicide.

Now, I know people aren't angry about this because someone claimed to be suicidal; you're angry because Mittens pulled a 'name and shame' out of his hat and essentially said "go find this guy". It is also debatable which party is responsible; is it Mittens, or is it 'The Wis'? This actually isn't really important in the big picture because both are subject to human nature and chaos (if it can be done, some(one) will eventually do it). Hence we can't blame Mittens for talking about it, and we can't blame The Wis for typing it in the first place.

But here's where the victimization element comes into play:
Of the following, who is easier to feel sympathy and/or empathy for?
Goonswarm CEO "douche bag extraordinaire" The Mittani, or Random-person "poor sod" The Wis?

Your personal choice is probably going to differ from mine, but I'm personally leaning towards Mittens, if only because The Wis used suicide as a bargaining chip. That and I don't have a bad opinion of Goonswar- ah; see...
Right there is the real problem. The people making the biggest fuss about this really just don't like Goonswarm or The Mittani regardless (this is a generalization, apply reason). The real tragedy is that they are using The Wis as a straw man (whether they realise it or not is irrelevant); an excuse for attacks on someone whom they don't like.

I could also be wrong and people genuinely care about and want to defend someone they've never met, talked to, or even cared about before Mittens brought it up. Excuse me if I find that a little hard to believe until someone shows me a documentary about The Wis being a person with actual issues IRL and being unable to deal with them.
If you really care about this person, I challenge you to run a charity to get him professional help and counselling.

Take that as you will; but you should probably just do as the ex-attorney said and


This is a terrible thread, with an even worse topic, inevitably posted by people who just can't let anything slip.
Or maybe it's all a trap taken just a bit too far; nobody knows but Mittens (I'll be waiting for his official statement).


Brought to you by 'not-an-internet-lawyer'.

wanna join WI?

Oh man, you're so cool, can I be just like you?

Because real suicidal people are frequently noted for their powers of discrimination in not putting themselves in harm's way? Oh, wait ...

The argument about PvP games in general is total crap. We're not talking about the consequences of someone losing their ship. we're talking about the consequences of a public call to harass a person. If you look closely you may be able to discern a minor difference.

haha YES!, Is this redeemable at a later date when I have more time in my life for null sec and not just forum trolling?