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Incoming titan adjustments

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2441 - 2012-03-16 20:32:24 UTC
Nao Oikawasan wrote:
Luckily, I don't think I'll be THERE much longer. Just long enough to figure out when I want to burn my main and get some revenge for the waste of my time by "Team Tech". Already have a fair group of dissidents ready to do the same. I suppose we should be thankful to Goons for showing us just how heavy the yoke of slavery to a fail coalition truly is.
See you on the other side, Goons. It will be glorious.


huh

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Aurora B
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2442 - 2012-03-16 20:35:15 UTC
Nao Oikawasan wrote:
Aurora B wrote:
Nao Oikawasan wrote:
At 0800 this morning "Team Tech", who had promised to superblob CFC for control of three moons, instead sat in front of their computers, sobbing and rocking, refusing to login and help the brave few souls who were being slaughtered by the Goons.
We know they were in front of their computers because they had all promised to take off of work and do this.
A concerned citizen when round to an absent participant's house to make sure he hadn't hurt himself and got no answer, aside from loud crying and a muffled "mummy, mummy, why did they do this? I HATE IT."
Has RDN. been broken?


Listening to ghetto ***** Vile again?


What is the new CCP tagline again?

Oh yeah........I WAS THERE!

Luckily, I don't think I'll be THERE much longer. Just long enough to figure out when I want to burn my main and get some revenge for the waste of my time by "Team Tech". Already have a fair group of dissidents ready to do the same. I suppose we should be thankful to Goons for showing us just how heavy the yoke of slavery to a fail coalition truly is.
See you on the other side, Goons. It will be glorious.


I think you have Lupus
Derkata
#2443 - 2012-03-16 20:41:34 UTC
CCP Mittani wrote:
Andski, as our super-troll I need you to flood the forums


Found this while doing spai stuff.
Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2444 - 2012-03-16 21:08:08 UTC
i for one am inspired that Aurora B, in an act of bravery, went against the wishes of raidenDOT high command and courageously posts with their main
Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2445 - 2012-03-16 21:08:38 UTC
too bad they're just a goon false flag alt anyhow
Mac Zehn
Perkone
Caldari State
#2446 - 2012-03-16 21:10:25 UTC
This is a brilliant thread filled with brilliant people discussing brilliant things.
Aurora B
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2447 - 2012-03-16 21:20:49 UTC
Shadoo wrote:
I don't think anyone who has flown a titan in combat can argue that the ship is not currently overpowered in combat when used in great numbers, just like no one could seriously argue about AOD DDs when they started to be used in 3+3 scale every 10 minutes

Of course, same goes for every ship in eve -- when used in great numbers, but Supercapitals certainly show this curve more often on the field

So I'm extremely happy that you state that the ship needs a role change - last time we were campaigning for AOD DD change -- this was exactly what a lot of us were asking for

But that was 3 years ago

I am therefore rather dissapointed that what we, the community at large, have been asking for a very long time is rather haphazardly brushed off as something that "will be looked at long term" with a surgical change that SCREAMS of a kneejerk reaction without really providing us with much to go on here to see your vision or have comfort you are going to do something in the long term for the "end game" ship in EVE

And forgive me for saying this -- but you have not always had a great track record of revisiting changes you've made in the past as surgical adjustments. Thus I feel like pressing a bit harder on the high level thoughts that have lead you to make this current fix

What is your intended role for Titan with this change on TQ today?

How will you evaluate if your changes implemented will match up with that role on the TQ combat field in this release? For example -- as far as I can see -- a large group of titans will still obliterate a large group of battleships/drakes -- all you've delayed is the first hit and require more micromanagement in making sure the lock queue is evenly spaced out

Given how large fights today unfold on TQ -- how do you see this ship fulfilling your intended role on heavily TiDi systems with the sig change

What is your future vision, even at high level, for the Titan ship class? Will it remain a combat asset or are you looking and overhauling it for something else (personally btw I've argued for the last 4 years that titans should NOT be a combat ship at all, but rather a massive alliance level asset for logistics/cloning/staging/etc)

What assurances can you offer us this change will not remain a permanent fixture for the long term?

With the combat ability of this ship being "surgically adjusted", would you be even willing to look at for example increasing the jump range of the ship to balance the change

And lastly -- are you going to allow those pilots who wish to wait for your stated longer term role adjustments to GM-dock their ship until such a time that this change is no longer a surgical measure in order to still utilize the account/character for combat in EVE?


Yes, this thread has brilliant post, not by your side though.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2448 - 2012-03-16 21:27:58 UTC
Aurora B wrote:
Shadoo wrote:
:words:


Yes, this thread has brilliant post, not by your side though.


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EnderCapitalG
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2449 - 2012-03-16 21:49:14 UTC
Aurora B wrote:
Yes, this thread has brilliant post, not by your side though.


Too bad that Shadoo is right and you're wrong.

In fact, most of the PL posters have been decently levelheaded about it all, while your alliance has done nothing but whine and then send out an alliance wide mail saying to stop posting on your mains.


Heh.




Nerd.
Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2450 - 2012-03-16 22:18:36 UTC
makes sense that raidenDOT would have to rely on PL to make posts
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#2451 - 2012-03-16 22:47:23 UTC
ASCMD (All Super-Capitals Must Die).

Because...

Because...errrrm...

Well, because **** them, that's why.

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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2452 - 2012-03-17 05:25:49 UTC
A counter to titan blobs:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12761765

works better than drakes.

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2453 - 2012-03-17 06:57:36 UTC
Headerman wrote:
A counter to titan blobs:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12761765

works better than drakes.


Tell me more about how the death of an comedy titan fit with smartbombs and no tank has any relevance to the tracking abilities of massed XL guns.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2454 - 2012-03-17 07:24:27 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Headerman wrote:
A counter to titan blobs:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12761765

works better than drakes.


Tell me more about how the death of an comedy titan fit with smartbombs and no tank has any relevance to the tracking abilities of massed XL guns.


More tracking = less tank maybe?

More tracking = easier to gank maybe?

More tracking = greater risk of losing the ship to a half thought out fleet composition that, surprisingly, is cap heavy?

And did you miss the rest of the titans in that battle report? They could have been there from anytime tho

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Sigras
Conglomo
#2455 - 2012-03-17 07:32:01 UTC
Headerman wrote:
A counter to titan blobs:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12761765

works better than drakes.


LOL heres the other side of that story . . .

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12761765
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2456 - 2012-03-17 08:05:41 UTC
Sigras wrote:
Headerman wrote:
A counter to titan blobs:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12761765

works better than drakes.


LOL heres the other side of that story . . .

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12761765


Yep, a lot of dreads died alright... but you would have to assume they were insured (well, they would be if smart people were in them..)

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Cyaron wars
Academia RED HOT Corporation
#2457 - 2012-03-17 08:05:44 UTC
You can link many killmails and say different things, but you all will be wrong. As one guy already posted in this thread: You cannot balance 70 billion ship vs 200 million ship. With same success you can try to balance Lamborghini vs Volkswagen Golf.
Any attempt that you make will fail since it will be wrong from very beginning. CCP should balance titans and supers against capitas and balance capitals against subcaps. that is the main point.
Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2458 - 2012-03-17 08:17:23 UTC
Headerman wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Headerman wrote:
A counter to titan blobs:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12761765

works better than drakes.


Tell me more about how the death of an comedy titan fit with smartbombs and no tank has any relevance to the tracking abilities of massed XL guns.


More tracking = less tank maybe?

More tracking = easier to gank maybe?

More tracking = greater risk of losing the ship to a half thought out fleet composition that, surprisingly, is cap heavy?

And did you miss the rest of the titans in that battle report? They could have been there from anytime tho

PL didn't get there in enough time and the pilot supposedly missed an opportunity to refit into something less terrible because he tried to log off forgetting that winter is here
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2459 - 2012-03-17 08:32:30 UTC
Cyaron wars wrote:
You can link many killmails and say different things, but you all will be wrong. As one guy already posted in this thread: You cannot balance 70 billion ship vs 200 million ship. With same success you can try to balance Lamborghini vs Volkswagen Golf.
Any attempt that you make will fail since it will be wrong from very beginning. CCP should balance titans and supers against capitas and balance capitals against subcaps. that is the main point.

My bot made me more ISK therefore I should win!

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Ed Hardi
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2460 - 2012-03-17 10:43:25 UTC