EVE General Discussion

Here I was getting all pi55ed about my unique ship collection and mine BPOs... how are you doing Entity? I bet you are livid!

I am not pleased atm...

Okay, If you want to know.

This deletion fiasco is genuinely upsetting to me as it undoes the 9 years of work I put into gathering the very rarest of rare items. Upsetting to the point of wondering whether I should continue investing my time in EVE. (cue "can I have your stuff" responses).

I'm firmly believe items should be left alone unless they break the balance of the game. A bunch of drones, implants and other crap that has no measurable effect on the game? Why delete it if they give people joy?

Perhaps it is not the "intended" way of playing the game, but for a game that is supposed to be a sandbox, being a collector is as valid a career as any other player's, and in the end we're all playing the game for fun.

I have items that are literally several orders of magnitude more rare and obscure than any of the stuff that was wiped, and even some (harmless!) stuff that is not meant to be in the game, and I fear for those treasures now.
Regardless of how they entered the game (accidental or intentional), they are a part of the game's rich history for better and for worse. They do not harm the game in any way, and are great conversation starters.

Deleting player owned items = Deleting the game's legacy. Don't do it, CCP.

How about automatically evemailing everyone who had items confiscated and inform them of what they lost? I've had a container full of random misc 'collectors items' and i have no idea whats been deleted from it.... if anything...

No... I totally get that. While a nub in relative terms... I've been trying to collect every ship and drone myself. It is NOT easy. These items are very expensive and I couldn't even afford the "cash value" of my ships in RL if I wanted to. What really burns me up is that we make this huge effort to aquire these items and than CCP just jacks them. Excellence my ass. I've been hoping for them to get better and I thought they had turned a corner at crucible but it looks like Grayscale is back to being awesome. If CCP screwed up they could take responsibility for it and just let you keep the items or give you something of equal value in game... but like with that Enigma those pirates captured the other week (and I'm not saying a mining drone is anything like that), CCP just tosses them a PLEX and says go F*** yourself. It really does make you wonder if it's worth the effort if you are never allowed to achieve anything... or if the policy at CCP is to turn a blind eye willfully ignorant incompetence... well then that might be as bad or worse.

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seriously, CCP ... you've got to stop with all the recent "trust us guys, you're gonna love us ******* up the history"

While you're at it, fix the fact you can't autolink noobships?

Give the guy a break people! It was a mistake.
Im especially confused about the whiney responses from some very famous EVE players.
CCP Greyscale already said that it was going to be fixed, read the thread before moaning. It's another mistake and suddenly everyone breaks down and starts the standard "I hate CCP" bandwagon again.

Why not work with CCP and let them know exactly what you lost and try to assist them in their quest to clear out the database, that way you might get your stuff back faster and you'll be helping rather than just posting rubbish on the forums.

You clearly missed the point. Restoring the items is good, but doesn't help much restoring trust in that CCP isn't going to silently baleet player assets in the future. And last I checked the whole point of forums is to voice ones opinion and concerns.
Of course I fully acknowledge it's CCP's game to do with as they pl..... oh wait :lolincarna:

But fair enough, one guy's legitimate grievance is another guy's whining I guess. yay, forums.

If it was a mistake I don't think anyone would eve comment beyond bringing it to CCPs attention. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm p***** off because Greyscale intentionally deleted these items because players "weren't supposed to" have them because they weren't "supposed to" be in the game... yet these items were obtained through normal game mechanics that were in game for years! Entity has been playing since 2003! If he has some weird ass drones no one else has I would say f*** yah that's cool and I'd pay a premium for them. They have value, and represent eve history. It's not about making a mistake. It's about being incompetent and not thinking about what you are doing before you do it. Some of us spend a lot of time and brain cells trying to accrue this stuff... this isn't a nerf. Essentially it's like CCP coming out and saying "oh, we changed our mind... caps were a bad idea. We're removing them from the game" and than compensating you nothing. Think some people would rage? The question then becomes... why buy anything? Why try to amass any kind of wealth or collect stuff if CCP Greyscale is just going to take it away when he gets bored from having nothing to fix in this otherwise flawless game?

Edit:
You know what is NOT going to happen? Entity is NOT going to take over f****** Delve and Fountain with a full flight of mining drones. It just isn't going down like that. If CCP wanted to "fix" a potential imbalance or or something, it would take virtually nothing to just nerf the specs of whatever they wanted to remove instead. Again, I can't speak for Entity, but I would bet you he wouldn't even care if they did. The thing that makes those items cool is just their history within the context of eve and their rarity, which gives them value. Anyone with their head in the game would know that.

I think I'm starting to fall in love with Greyscale. He really is working his hardest to represent CCP's desire to disconnect from their community as much as possible and destroy their existing playerbase.