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New dev blog: What's in a name

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#21 - 2012-02-29 16:21:03 UTC
I approve renaming the Civilian Mining Laser to Chribba's Modified Civil Mining Laser.

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-02-29 16:22:24 UTC
about meta 1-4 items:

doesnt sound very logical to me

limited is better than upgraded ? weird stuff happening at CCP

about skill hardwirings:

awesome !

about amplifiers:

ok

about launchers:

very weird stuff, think again about assault missile names please
Hayaishi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-02-29 16:22:53 UTC
ze blog wrote:
Assault Missile Launchers have become Rapid Light Missile Launchers


FTFY
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#24 - 2012-02-29 16:22:55 UTC
yaay, more updates for Eve, Evemon, jEveassets, Evementat, EFT, and anything else that lists items, for the love of god, why didn't you do this when you changed the missile names, it's not like it's difficult to do to change a name and description in a database table Roll

I feel sorry for the writers of all the software that runs alongside eve having to change things yet again because CCP couldn't get their act together.

Sarmatiko
#25 - 2012-02-29 16:23:46 UTC
Light Missile Arrays? Not Rapid Light Missile launchers?
Devblog was in pipeline for too long or this is the last minute change? Shocked

Also I dont like additional word in the "Adaptive Invulnerability Field".

Hardwiring name change is excellent for sure.
Ulair Memmet
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-02-29 16:26:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Ulair Memmet
Please don't do this Sad

You are not making the game easier or user friendly by doing this. You are just making it generic.
If you want to make it easier for people to find out, which items are better at a glance, then please sort the things on the market by meta level instead of alphabeticly... That way the t1 items are on top, followed by the other metas and then t2.
You'd of course need to group the items, so that e.g. all 350mm railguns are together.

So first sort by group, then by meta level

Please!!!

Besides alot of variety in module names I especially don't want the awesome target painter names to be gone (And if you don't know what i mean, just LOOK AT THEM)

The launcher changes seem unnecessary aswell

Edit: this excludes the hardwirings. Those really were confusing as hell
Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-02-29 16:26:23 UTC
While I'm sure we all have quibbles about particular name choices, the overall goal of consistency is a laudable one, and Gnauton deserves some +1's for taking on this non-sexy but useful project.

+1

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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#28 - 2012-02-29 16:27:36 UTC
Meta Level 1: Upgraded
Meta Level 2: Limited
Meta Level 3: Experimental
Meta Level 4: Prototype

The order makes no sense to me.... You don't upgrade something and then have it limited. Also, experimental and prototype mean the same thing.... it's just a mass of "words".

I think you guys need to go back to the drawing board =\
Skye Aurorae
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-02-29 16:27:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Skye Aurorae
Meta 2 => Limited

MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL

Consider 'Enhanced' instead.

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Squizz Caphinator
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#30 - 2012-02-29 16:27:58 UTC
Quote:

Heavy Assault Missile Launchers have become Assault Missile Launchers

Assault Missile Launchers have become Light Missile Arrays

Standard Missile Launchers have become Light Missile Launchers


There is no easily discernible difference between Light Missile Arrays and Light Missile Launchers. This will be confusing for everyone, new or old.

Typically when critiquing something I like to come up with suggestive alternatives, however, I can't think of anything that will fit well with your renaming scheme.

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Eugene Spencer
Panic Stations.
#31 - 2012-02-29 16:28:07 UTC
Yeah the invulnerability fields - I'm not sure it needs both adaptive and invulnerability in the name. One or the other!

I prefer Rapid Light Missile Launchers too.

And I'm not sure why the implants need their manufacturer's name - I've always found that confusing.

Other than that, all looks good to me!

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Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
#32 - 2012-02-29 16:29:26 UTC
This is an official statement of the undisputed Lord of the Items:

Meta (or in fact, any) module name changes = Cry

I do, however, support the implant renames because those random letter and number combinations have absolutely no relation to the buff they provide :)

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#33 - 2012-02-29 16:30:00 UTC
This is not dumbing the game down. The only downside to this is a week or so of all of the third party programs updating all of the names. This is a very good thing that needed to happen years ago. Get over it.

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Sidias
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-02-29 16:30:04 UTC
Here you are trying to improve the naming conventions and yet you are not keeping a similarity between Assault Missile Launchers. Why not call the Heavy Assault Missile Launchers -> Heavy Missile Arrays ? That way it will stick with your naming convention for Light Missile Arrays.
Draciste
Everyone vs Everything
#35 - 2012-02-29 16:30:57 UTC
Djakku wrote:
this just makes the game more boring and less- sci fi...


+1
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#36 - 2012-02-29 16:31:32 UTC
Sidias wrote:
Here you are trying to improve the naming conventions and yet you are not keeping a similarity between Assault Missile Launchers. Why not call the Heavy Assault Missile Launchers -> Heavy Missile Arrays ? That way it will stick with your naming convention for Light Missile Arrays.


Except they don't launch heavy missiles. They launch assault missiles.

That's one of the confusions that's being ironed out.

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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#37 - 2012-02-29 16:31:51 UTC
KFenn wrote:
Steijn wrote:
will you please stop dumbing the game down with these stupid generic name changes.


Hasn't this been debated to death already? It's not 'dumbing down the game'. It's just removing pointless obscurity. It's a painstaking task to either remember the name of all the modules, or to Right-click > Show info on everything to show meta levels.

Personally I welcome this change, less time ******* around with modules is more time to pew. You know, the part of the game that has actual difficulty?


Won't market search become trickier, though?
Kata Amentis
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-02-29 16:34:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Kata Amentis
Quote:

Assault Missile Launchers have become Light Missile Arrays

...

All scripts in the game have had the word "script" added to their names, so a simple market search for "script" will now bring up all scripts available in the game, irrespective of market group.


Apply logic used in the scripts bit to the launcher bit... please.


Steve Ronuken wrote:


Maybe Rapid light missile launcher, for the assault missile launcher though?



Had the same though... but you beat me!

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#39 - 2012-02-29 16:34:44 UTC
sounds good at first glance

but please also fix the small medium laser confusion. thanks

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Anja Talis
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal
#40 - 2012-02-29 16:35:02 UTC
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of veterans suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced