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Rogue Drones

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Gouzu Kho
Kho Incorporated
The Lone Space Wolves
#21 - 2012-02-10 21:25:20 UTC
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
Which one is that one?


I think he is talking about the "Awakened Infomorph" character that appeared after a certain event in wormhole space.
Borascus
#22 - 2012-02-10 23:19:27 UTC
Terokone wrote:
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:

While I was out in the drone regions, I had actually deciphered some rogue drone local code.

After having played with the binary code and formatting in this post and realizing I screwed up the bytes, I figured I'd just post the direct translation. What it said was: [quote=rogue drone]"Enemies are upon us. Activate Code A6192. Defense Mechanism Active!"


Without seeing other rogue drone local chat, I assume the rest of the rogue drones in the drone regions are about the same. I haven't seen the local chat of a sentient drone, however.


The need for a linguist is also appealing, in terms of population habitude based on level of modified language!
Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-02-11 02:46:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Amaroq Dricaldari
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
Kiroma Halandri wrote:
No, no, no, no, no. It wasn't the ancient Terrans either. They are more advanced than even the Jovians and Sleepers combined, and not even they have developed Nanite technology that advanced. It has to be the real ancients, the ones that have all ascended by now.

Ascended beings? That is just an urban legend!


Except for that one ascended being that was running about Jita for a while.

Are you saying...

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Hans Zwaardhandler
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#24 - 2012-02-16 20:47:41 UTC
Any other theories that people may have? What about the Sleeper/Rogue Drone connection that was apparently hinted at by CCP Abraxes awhile back?
Deceiver's Voice
Molok Subclade
#25 - 2012-02-17 00:32:28 UTC
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
Any other theories that people may have? What about the Sleeper/Rogue Drone connection that was apparently hinted at by CCP Abraxes awhile back?

Watch The Matrix Revolutions.

Then read Templar One. Then, consider that there are Rogue Drone structures that look suspiciously like Jove stations. Mix, add one pint of your favorite alcohol-based beverage (not that I condone drinking, it just seems the way most people begin to understand my mad ramblings). About then, you might get the most peculiar notions.

Cool

Like, for instance, if one could download into a machine from a body, why not download from that machine into another machine? What would happen if you were stuck in a virtual reality for so long that you couldn't cope with the realities of having a body?

It may not make sense at first. But yeah, it's not a direct connection. Also, as Dropbear messaged me on Twitter one day; do a Google search for "Primacy Caveat". Could be something, could be nothing. Never hurts to take a gander.

Blink
Kiroma Halandri
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-02-19 07:53:28 UTC
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Roga Dracor
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#27 - 2012-02-21 03:10:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Roga Dracor
And then, maybe into artificial biological bodies..? How would one escape an infomorphic institution of the mind? Just who went Rogue? When did the Jove begin to fight back? After they were being forced into the virtuality? Do the quarantine sites represent the Enhuadanni or the Jove?

The Sleepers were obviously forcing baseline humans or Jovians into servitude as Enhuadanni or additions to their Virtuality.

There is a distinct similarity in the wording of the Talocan Exchange Depot and a Sleeper structure that recharges and sustains the Sleeper Drones. I always "guessed" it implied the Sleeper Drones themselves are akin to capsuleer vessels, with the exception being the "pilot" no longer had a body, or much will of it's own.

Take for example, "Sleepless Defender", on duty forever. "Awakened Sentinel", a newly jacked in pilot pulled out of the virtuality to defend the stations.. Something became seriously flawwed within their Utopia...

It begs the question, do Sleeper Drones Sleep or Dream? And other inherently mad and dellusional queries, like shouldn't my Gallente standings go down when I kill Rogue Drones, or was that Jovian standings? Whatever DID happen to the those opportunistic Yan Jungs?

Further, I feel compelled to reassess my view of the Jove that "remain". I think I misjudged their motivations..

What would the diametric view be for the Society of Conscious Thought? Unconscious Thought? Dreaming? Why would the Jove refuse the Empires access to a code that would allow them to control the Rogue Drone problem? Why would the Jove allow one of their own to be surrendered to the Rogue Drones? Whom the Society, at least, can control with ease. Surrendered for the crime of allowing that code into Empyrean hands.. Where might the Jove be looking to sustain their race?

Infomorphism and genetic mapping could open some interesting possibilities..

'Course, they could all be electronic mind devourers that have taken over the human elite to institute cluster wide domination of the cattle, too...Twisted

It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then, and it's a poor sort of memory that only works backward.

Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-02-21 07:34:15 UTC
The Sleepers tried to ascend, like the Ori and the Ancients. The Ancients got it right. The Ori don't count because they cheated their way to ascension. And the Sleepers are simply doing it ALL wrong.

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Deceiver's Voice
Molok Subclade
#29 - 2012-02-22 09:15:31 UTC
Tykari wrote:
Well they were supposed to deliver the weapon to a Society of Concious Thought area, so the chances are high the Jove are in some way related to it.

Assume the following: The Jove are dead.

If they weren't delivering it to the Jove, who would they be delivering it to?

The answer isn't that hard if you think about it; remember, they were reset. Meaning whoever was behind their operation had no control over them at that point.

Hint:

Pirate

Bonus points if you can figure out who reprogrammed them. Twisted
Kiroma Halandri
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-03-08 07:09:54 UTC
Deceiver's Voice wrote:
[quote=Tykari]If they weren't delivering it to the Jove, who would they be delivering it to?

The answer isn't that hard if you think about it; remember, they were reset. Meaning whoever was behind their operation had no control over them at that point.

Hint:

Pirate

Bonus points if you can figure out who reprogrammed them. Twisted

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Deceiver's Voice
Molok Subclade
#31 - 2012-03-11 05:17:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Deceiver's Voice
Kiroma Halandri wrote:
The Ori!

Straight Not as far off as you'd think. Bear

Try Ishukone, or more accurately, a certain ex-Ishukone CEO's friends/family. There may be a quiz on this later. Blink

The inhuman "voice" even has a name, and once you know that name, it all fits into place. It's not Jamyl's little "voice", that's for sure. So, who can control drones, and have a way to gain control of them again? Who would have connections with Blood Raiders? Why would the individual(s) in question feel that they had the upper hand in dealing with the Blood Raiders?

The other thing, about who controlled the drones before the code was implemented? It's both a hint to the origin of the drones, and the answer to why the "super weapon" was there in the first place.

I mean, I could just say it all right now, but where would the fun in that be? The evidence is there, in black and white... you just have to put aside your initial theories and look at the evidence from a different point of view.
Rapcore2
Freelancer Union
Unaffiliated
#32 - 2012-03-16 21:28:01 UTC
Actually, I did broke the drone signal, and i managed to decript it. Drones say: "You no take candle".
Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-03-18 23:49:04 UTC
Candle?

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killroy Atram
Universal Might
#34 - 2012-03-19 02:00:11 UTC
Drop-Me-Own-Stocks Darius wrote:

It would also be pretty cool to see a bunch of rogue drones found a civilian ship that got damaged by pirates and started attempting to repair it. Or if a squad of rogue drones (seperated from their colony) attempted to dock in a ship's drone bay. Or if they started turning people's drones into more of their kind.

i don't know about repping a ship or docking in a drone bay but i know from experience that they can turn your drones against yourself
Unit XS365BT
Unit Commune
#35 - 2012-03-19 02:48:36 UTC
[RP] We can? interesting.

I will have to try this one day. [/RP]

on a more lore related note, iirc there were tales of rogue drones subsuming (infesting / assimilating) humans, and specifically capsuleers when they were first encountered.

the spectrum breach event that supposedly created the rogue drone race caused the entire drone population of several regions to turn on their controllers simultaneously...

and, rogue drones take defeated ships, outposts, scrap, debris and nearby asteroids, and turn them into hives, lairs and more drones. some of the hives even look like scaled up capsuleer ships and drones... (one of them even has an almost dreadnought sized vexor hull attached to the top... o.O )



to answer an earlier question regarding the binary used in missions, there are many different messages that are sent, some have apparent meaning, some are hints, some are red herrings, and others, much like 'prepare to die n00b' are just the devs having a little fun.

(if you want more proof that the devs like to have a laugh, just look at the initials of the meta versions of the target painter)

Unit XS365BT. Designated Communications Officer. Unit Commune.

Myxx
The Scope
#36 - 2012-03-19 03:24:45 UTC
Unit XS365BT wrote:
[RP] We can? interesting.

I will have to try this one day. [/RP]

on a more lore related note, iirc there were tales of rogue drones subsuming (infesting / assimilating) humans, and specifically capsuleers when they were first encountered.

the spectrum breach event that supposedly created the rogue drone race caused the entire drone population of several regions to turn on their controllers simultaneously...

and, rogue drones take defeated ships, outposts, scrap, debris and nearby asteroids, and turn them into hives, lairs and more drones. some of the hives even look like scaled up capsuleer ships and drones... (one of them even has an almost dreadnought sized vexor hull attached to the top... o.O )




I tried to do something with that subsuming thing once, except people apparently thought it a bad idea and screwed it over. I call it a dead end, something a lot of people don't want proven for their own reasons even if it is something that happened.
Kiroma Halandri
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2012-03-27 18:39:08 UTC
Unit XS365BT wrote:
(if you want more proof that the devs like to have a laugh, just look at the initials of the meta versions of the target painter)

Partial Weapon Navigation - PWN
Peripheral Weapon Navigation Diameter - PWND
Parallel Weapon Navigation Transmitter - PWNT
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron - PWNAGE
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Roga Dracor
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#38 - 2012-03-27 19:14:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Roga Dracor
There is only one reason, I can see, a Rogue Drone might try to rebirth itself in flesh.. It had it's origins in flesh.. But, humour me, anyone else have a plausible reasoning for this behavior?

Oh noes, he's on his Jovian kick again.. Blink

It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then, and it's a poor sort of memory that only works backward.

Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
#39 - 2012-03-27 19:52:25 UTC

I think it is quite possible that Rouge Drones are degraded 'fragments' of sleeper info-morphs.

Remember the (Damaged) Rogue Drone in Algintal which depicts a Jovian face.

Residual body image, perhaps.

Roga Dracor
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#40 - 2012-03-28 00:37:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Roga Dracor
Knowing now more of the hints, it seems probable there was an insurrection of some sort within Anoikis at some point in time.

Possibly before the advanced self destruct system was incorporated in the Sleeper Drones. Actually, I would say there was an onging struggle within Anoikis over a period of time, judging from the quarantined Talocan sites and the more recent Ruins of Enclave Cohort 27..

I disagree that the Jove are dead and "gone", though.. Certainly different and no longer human, their race became in most respects, the Enhuadanni. But, I think that a fragment of Jovian remorse has infected the Sleeper Enclaves, and that some exceptional individuals may have learned a new way to exist.

Then there are the Intaki.. Blink

It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then, and it's a poor sort of memory that only works backward.