Jita Park Speakers Corner

You have my flashy red ballot.

As an original Eve Online beta player... that didn't play again until 2011 (and thus missed out on the long long evolution into the current state) , your attitude and ideas make sense to me judged from what the game was supposed to achieve.

So sure I'll vote for ya!

Conceptually, I love the idea. Mining could be more fun like this. I would certainly be bored less!

I'm much more pragmatic though, I think we've all learned the lesson following Incarna that ambitious additions to the game run the risk of getting bogged down developmentally.

Something like this would require a huge amount of art team work, UI, balancing, and would dramatically affect the economy if it even slightly changed the average minerals / hour that miners can make in a given area of space.

I'd file this into a category of "once everything else that's simpler gets caught up" and see if there's more achievable solutions to the miner-boredom problem.

You'll soon see that this is my thought process when discussing "what if" features. I think the programming feasability of a solution must be a criteria when evaluating whether its worth promoting, because every commitment to building new code from scratch (which this would require) eats up a higher proportion of resources than adjustments to existing systems, and so those types of projects must be selected very judiciously and be of utmost importance.

That's not at all to say mining wouldn't be worth it, I'm just saying that there are a lot of areas of space to consider - and I don't want future expansions to be released such that some players continually feel left out. Every expansion should have a little something for everyone, even if a big push is made on one project in particular.

With so much backlogged work to complete on so many critical game play mechanics, I think CCP should save themselves time and effort by making adjustments whenever possible (like with Faction Warfare, for example) and not overly complicate an overhaul if they could use those artists and programmers on something that DOES need totally new stuff drawn up (Dead Horse POS or 0.0 Sovereignty).

I really hope they are getting this message in time, and get in touch with the community, before they trudge forward into another Incarna debacle where go way overboard trying to give the players something they weren't really asking for.

First real candidate I've liked running for CSM. You have all 14 of my votes sir.

Got my vote as well. We badly need an advocate for Faction Warfare.

Edit: Hey Lord, seems we have the candidate in mind.

I have no qualms about piracy for profit at all. That's the point right? Someone's gonna shank one of my clones for saying this, but pirate corps tend to be more experienced and professional than Faction Warfare corps. If you don't pwn, you don't eat. There is a point to having a blob, because you need an efficient loot haul to make up for the fact you're not missioning.

It's a working-class form of PvP I myself am too lazy for, but it makes for stronger and more talented pilots in the long run, so I have a strong respect for pirate pilots. I myself am pretty impatient with low sec PvP frequency at the moment. I'm not into "duck-hunting" style PvP, so if there isn't action around, I do my carebear stuff instead. With highsec piracy, there's a lot of stalking involved for a quick kill, and that also just doesn't jive with my attention span. The drawback is that I'm not as good at PvP as others of you that do this day after day. Many pilots younger than I are the true "hot shots" in my corp, cause they sit out there and work for it.

This impatience, of course, is my most selfish motivation for this campaign. I don't remember if I mentioned it in my document or not, but I have ADHD, and am comfortable sharing that. I just want to log on and shoot players, not NPC's, and I don't want to have to sit an hour in space to do that. There's a lot of filler activities in EvE that I use to pass the time between fleet ops and keep it fun (cooking up boosters, for example).

I'm not hostile to piracy at all as a concept, I just think it should be most challenging the deeper you go into highsec. That's the point of "sec", right? I think there's balancing work to be done, because there needs to be areas of space that cater to those of different tastes. I don't know if it came off clear enough in the document, but I'm fine with some areas of highsec being a little more pirate-friendly, if we had shifts in others to make it less of a headache for newer players.

Piracy should be possible in every area of space. If you are in a spaceship in space, any other spaceship should be allowed to lock and kill you. Anywhere. Without exception. I have no problem taking a firm campaign stance on this.

But there should be consequences. And tough ones, in the highest security areas. If you want to do the kind of PvP you'll be called a griefer for, you should be ones most challenged by the mechanics.

I won't pretend to know all the answers yet, there's a lot of good ideas being tossed around. At this point, its easiest to share my core principles, because those are not as subject to change as my advocacy of one particular change or another regarding CONCORD or Crimewatch.

i thought this was minmatar online? (meaning ships)

As an Ammatar / Amarrian loyalist who left service in FW disgusted with its present state of affairs, you have my two votes.

I like your ideas, your systematic approach to harnessing others' feedback to provide solutions to FW and high/low sec issues, and your passion that clearly shows through. That, and our common experience with the games you played, makes me think you'll best represent my take on what needs to be improved.

Good luck and success for your campaign, honored foe! :)

hey are you really german?

He has been posting on the forums with myself trying to put a fire up CCP's backside ever since they missed the FW round table last year.

In addition, he has put time and effort into touching base with people in FW, high sec and even the low sec pirates and sounding them out. Combine this with the time it takes to put together a document of the size and detail that his campaign brief contains, and you have to understand, this does take some doing. I think many people will admit this is not a sprint. Hans is in it for the long haul. Just give him the time to assess the reaction to his campaign launch. Whilst many have only started their campaign in the last few days, unofficially Hans has been doing it since last year.


I believe he is actually from the North America in real life (trying to remember if US or Canada). I was asking the same thing the other day...