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Rogue Drones

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Hans Zwaardhandler
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#1 - 2012-02-07 00:32:08 UTC
Lately I've been tackling rogue drone pockets and missions involving them, and from time to time, I am seeing strings of random binary code in local that they broadcast to me. Now that got me thinking just tonight, has anybody already deciphered the rogue drone binary code? If you have, does it reveal anything interesting of the sort, or just warnings for you to leave the area?

The rogue drones are rather fascinating, and their connection to the Sleepers that was hinted at in another thread is highly interesting and makes me curious as to their nature.

I am also wondering what questions everybody else has regarding rogue drones, and I have many more myself, but I prefer not to clog up a thread with just my own questions.

Thank you in advance for any answers that you have. Big smile
Drop-Me-Own-Stocks Darius
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-02-07 04:58:16 UTC
I think Rogue Drones are drones that have come into contact with Sleeper Drones and were 'augmented' by the Sleeper Drones via Bio-Nanites (similiar to the Replicators in Stargate, perhaps even the very same if you want to throw the two timelines together).

Perhaps they don't want to attack humans, so they try to warn them to stay away, but their aggresive instincts and territorial behavior send them into a fit of rage when the humans don't respond to their warnings.

But it would be pretty cool if they started taking over abandoned ships and essentially turning them into giant rogue drones, or if they learned how to 'replicate' various forms of Bio-Mass, including (if needed) humans. And of course, they can always 'replicate' fuel and construction materials, and eachother if needed. It might also explain how the Gallente, Minmatar, and Caldari drones got their ammunition.

It would also be pretty cool to see a bunch of rogue drones found a civilian ship that got damaged by pirates and started attempting to repair it. Or if a squad of rogue drones (seperated from their colony) attempted to dock in a ship's drone bay. Or if they started turning people's drones into more of their kind.
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Khimi Harar
#3 - 2012-02-07 05:00:12 UTC
I think most of the binary is just standard rogue drone stuff like "More prey" "Attack", etc.
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#4 - 2012-02-07 14:39:44 UTC
You don't need to worry about anything the drones are saying as long as it's in binary. When they adopt a refined gentleman's British accent, that's when you worry.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-02-07 16:07:30 UTC
"PREPARE TO DIE, N00B." does not seem very refined or friendly to me.Straight
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Hans Zwaardhandler
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#6 - 2012-02-07 20:45:20 UTC
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
You don't need to worry about anything the drones are saying as long as it's in binary. When they adopt a refined gentleman's British accent, that's when you worry.


Isn't that the truth? Big smile

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"PREPARE TO DIE, N00B." does not seem very refined or friendly to me.Straight
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So that's what they are saying! I was interested, as I was wondering if CCP had stuck in bits of lore here and there with the drones.

And Drop-Me-Own-Stocks Darius, that sounds like a great future idea for the rogue drones themselves. As well as if Rogue Drone level five missions receive more content, maybe they will start showing up with Rogue Drone converted capital vessels to look at, and even possibly fight.

Also, I've always wondered how in a piece of fiction from the Empyrean Age how Rogue drones were turned into servants by the former head of Ishukone, yet the pirate factions deal with them like the Empires.

Any other ideas regarding rogue drones that people would like to make?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#7 - 2012-02-08 00:33:30 UTC
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
You don't need to worry about anything the drones are saying as long as it's in binary. When they adopt a refined gentleman's British accent, that's when you worry.


Isn't that the truth? Big smile

Quote:
"PREPARE TO DIE, N00B." does not seem very refined or friendly to me.Straight
Source


So that's what they are saying! I was interested, as I was wondering if CCP had stuck in bits of lore here and there with the drones.

And Drop-Me-Own-Stocks Darius, that sounds like a great future idea for the rogue drones themselves. As well as if Rogue Drone level five missions receive more content, maybe they will start showing up with Rogue Drone converted capital vessels to look at, and even possibly fight.

Also, I've always wondered how in a piece of fiction from the Empyrean Age how Rogue drones were turned into servants by the former head of Ishukone, yet the pirate factions deal with them like the Empires.

Any other ideas regarding rogue drones that people would like to make?



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Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-02-08 00:54:24 UTC
I think that is a not-so-infamous Dev ship called the Cockroach.

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Borascus
#9 - 2012-02-08 02:40:01 UTC
I was thinking about the Rogue Drones being the infomorphic representations of the lost Sleeper's. If the Quarantine theories hold and some links are established it may be that some Sleeper's were forced to leave the Sleeper systems for being "too infected".


If they then set about finding more "juicy info's" and trying to overcome their "illness" they might have had the one emotion required to make them lose the plot - Desperation. If they are still mobilizing fleet's taking over cap ships and trying to stockpile ores etc.... wouldn't they have had experience of that coded into them? Taking over Isogen-5 stores couldn't have been research.


There is an interesting part on Theodicy whereby a Blood Raider is speaking to someone "much higher than his Bosses" and that someone transmits a code that enslaves the local rogue drones granting free passage to the Blood Raider/s. That information was somewhere, stayed somewhere, and was not used as a method to remove the rogue drones altogether. Which in istelf held me captivated enough to reply to this thread.
Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
#10 - 2012-02-08 13:22:47 UTC
Borascus wrote:
I was thinking about the Rogue Drones being the infomorphic representations of the lost Sleeper's. If the Quarantine theories hold and some links are established it may be that some Sleeper's were forced to leave the Sleeper systems for being "too infected".


If they then set about finding more "juicy info's" and trying to overcome their "illness" they might have had the one emotion required to make them lose the plot - Desperation. If they are still mobilizing fleet's taking over cap ships and trying to stockpile ores etc.... wouldn't they have had experience of that coded into them? Taking over Isogen-5 stores couldn't have been research.


There is an interesting part on Theodicy whereby a Blood Raider is speaking to someone "much higher than his Bosses" and that someone transmits a code that enslaves the local rogue drones granting free passage to the Blood Raider/s. That information was somewhere, stayed somewhere, and was not used as a method to remove the rogue drones altogether. Which in istelf held me captivated enough to reply to this thread.


So far rogue drones don't seem to have any sleeper connection. These drones existed before any contact with W-space was established and were the result of experimentation with fully automated ships with a AIs capable of self-replication.

Also an advanced AI-System like VILAMO might show some of the same traits a hive of rogue drones has, but they have not 'yet' gone rogue.

....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced.

Borascus
#11 - 2012-02-08 14:20:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Borascus
In The Great Harvest Chronicle (not Theodicy, my mistake) - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Great_Harvest_%28Chronicle%29

There is the following:


"Certainly, captain. My name is Omir Sarakusa. A long time ago an Amarrian group of heretics struck out for fortune and glory under the title of Sani Sabik. I am a leader of one of their branches, a group called the Blood Raiders. You may have heard of us."

Omir Sarakusa then leads with:

"We have friends, Captain, who have greatly facilitated us in this process. They have spies within the Sisters' ranks - in fact, they have even clashed with the Sisters on past hunts for strange relics, though none so magnificent as this one - and they were perfectly happy with letting the Sisters show us the way to the weapon. I will put you in direct contact with them quite shortly. You are to obey their instructions to the letter. If you do so, I have reason to believe that this quest of yours will end with you manning the greatest destructive weapon known to mankind. Do you understand what that means, Captain?"

When these friends talk to Antar:

Shortly after, they were hailed again. A new voice spoke, one that was unknown to the captain. It felt emotionless and dead. It said, "Are you listening?"

The voice said, "We will upload to your ship an extensive packet of data. Once you have accepted its delivery you will fully verify its integrity, for any errors will kill you and cost us the entire mission. This data bulk is an access key that will alter the drones' programming, resetting it to its original state, and thus grant you safe passage. We entrust you with this because we cannot be seen in this area, but we will expect recompense. Once you have secured the weapon, you will bring it to a named location for us to inspect. We are interested in the theory of the thing, not its use."


The Rogue Drones are then taken over with the following commentary:

His thoughts changed to puzzled amazement when the nearest drones suddenly disengaged, stopped dead in their tracks and started orbiting the ship as if they were protecting it. He had the navigator pull up a wide picture of the drone hive, and the sight was amazing. It was as if a wave of cognitive dissonance was sweeping over the poor machines. The ones that had been heading towards the ship went every which way, some back to the hive, others towards the blue star in the distance, and a fair few in directions that seemed utterly random. Others, mainly the drones that had been carrying isogen-5 to the hive, apparently sped up their efforts, zooming back and forth with such fervor that a fair few missed the hangar entrance and crashed into the hive walls. A handful of drones even flew into one another and began to fight, only to break up again a moment later and head their separate ways.

Antar saw how most of the drones - the ones not holding isogen-5, at least - kept opening and closing their claws, as if grasping at empty air. Against his communicator's advice he attempted to hail them, but there was no response. He suspected the drones were not incapable of communication, but merely too busy dealing with their new programming to answer at all.




After reading that I looked at the Rogue Drone regions and found The Spire and Outer Passage, which are close to Cache http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:Cache_%28Region%29 due to the footnote on Cache by CCP



TL:DR

The Sleeper connection is only really put forward as they are actively seeking Isogen-5 in The Great Harvest, and that is eventually used to create the wormholes to W-Space during the Seyllin event. Other than that the area where the Drones first go rogue is close to cache region.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cache_%28computing%29
Hans Zwaardhandler
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#12 - 2012-02-08 21:15:25 UTC
Hmmm... after rereading the Great Harvest, I have to say that that is some interesting stuff. The cold, emotionless, dead voice? Unknown as of yet. I am wondering though, where did this programming come from with the Rogue Drones collecting isogen-5 and other things of the sort? I don't believe that they would have found out for themselves, so that is unexplained.

But possibly the Jovians have some connection with this? After all, they have tinkered with just about everything imaginable. What stop's them from doing something along these lines?
Tykari
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-02-08 21:46:32 UTC
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
Hmmm... after rereading the Great Harvest, I have to say that that is some interesting stuff. The cold, emotionless, dead voice? Unknown as of yet. I am wondering though, where did this programming come from with the Rogue Drones collecting isogen-5 and other things of the sort? I don't believe that they would have found out for themselves, so that is unexplained.

But possibly the Jovians have some connection with this? After all, they have tinkered with just about everything imaginable. What stop's them from doing something along these lines?


Well they were supposed to deliver the weapon to a Society of Concious Thought area, so the chances are high the Jove are in some way related to it.

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Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-02-09 09:09:40 UTC
The Jovians have nothing to do with this. It was the ancient Terrans.

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Hans Zwaardhandler
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#15 - 2012-02-09 20:52:27 UTC
In terms of the weapon, yes. In terms of the rogue drones and their activity... I am skeptical towards that. I am inclined to believe that the Jovians do have a connection to this, somehow.
Kiroma Halandri
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-02-09 21:12:52 UTC
No, no, no, no, no. It wasn't the ancient Terrans either. They are more advanced than even the Jovians and Sleepers combined, and not even they have developed Nanite technology that advanced. It has to be the real ancients, the ones that have all ascended by now.
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Freedom-Technologies
#17 - 2012-02-10 04:41:02 UTC
Hans Zwaardhandler wrote:
Lately I've been tackling rogue drone pockets and missions involving them, and from time to time, I am seeing strings of random binary code in local that they broadcast to me. Now that got me thinking just tonight, has anybody already deciphered the rogue drone binary code? If you have, does it reveal anything interesting of the sort, or just warnings for you to leave the area? Big smile


While I was out in the drone regions, I had actually deciphered some rogue drone local code.

After having played with the binary code and formatting in this post and realizing I screwed up the bytes, I figured I'd just post the direct translation. What it said was:
rogue drone wrote:
"Enemies are upon us. Activate Code A6192. Defense Mechanism Active!"


Without seeing other rogue drone local chat, I assume the rest of the rogue drones in the drone regions are about the same. I haven't seen the local chat of a sentient drone, however.
Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-02-10 05:03:44 UTC
Kiroma Halandri wrote:
No, no, no, no, no. It wasn't the ancient Terrans either. They are more advanced than even the Jovians and Sleepers combined, and not even they have developed Nanite technology that advanced. It has to be the real ancients, the ones that have all ascended by now.

Ascended beings? That is just an urban legend!

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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#19 - 2012-02-10 14:09:31 UTC
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
Kiroma Halandri wrote:
No, no, no, no, no. It wasn't the ancient Terrans either. They are more advanced than even the Jovians and Sleepers combined, and not even they have developed Nanite technology that advanced. It has to be the real ancients, the ones that have all ascended by now.

Ascended beings? That is just an urban legend!


Except for that one ascended being that was running about Jita for a while.
Hans Zwaardhandler
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#20 - 2012-02-10 20:53:20 UTC
Which one is that one?
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