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Arrendis
TK Corp
#341 - 2017-05-22 02:29:10 UTC
Eh, coffee's just a placebo for self-destructive behavior, anyway.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#342 - 2017-05-22 06:29:15 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Eh, coffee's just a placebo for self-destructive behavior, anyway.


If you consider pulling all-nighters for days at end to be self-destructive, yes.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Loai Qerl
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#343 - 2017-05-22 19:34:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Loai Qerl
Today has gone from a very nice day to a day to hide in your pod and cry until it puts things in the goo or whatever to calm you down again.

I know I'm not the only one who does that. Admit it.
Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
#344 - 2017-05-22 20:08:56 UTC
Loai Qerl wrote:
Today has gone from a very nice day to a day to hide in your pod and cry until it puts things in the goo or whatever to calm you down again.

I know I'm not the only one who does that. Admit it.

I'm sorry to hear that Lorl. You should stop by sometime and have some chocolate

Queen of Chocolate
Arrendis
TK Corp
#345 - 2017-05-22 20:23:04 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Eh, coffee's just a placebo for self-destructive behavior, anyway.


If you consider pulling all-nighters for days at end to be self-destructive, yes.


No, actually... see, here's the thing: coffee, as normally prepared, is extremely bitter. That's because of which chemical receptors in the mouth and on the tongue coffee triggers and interacts with. Those specific chemical receptors are read by the brain as 'THIS IS BAD'... because that's actually why they're there. Most extremely bitter natural compounds are highly toxic. So we've got taste buds that interact with them expressly so the brain can go 'this is poison!'

So, when we drink coffee, there's a level of 'this is poison!' going on in the back of the brain. But we know, consciously, that coffee's safe to drink (it's actually not, especially for the young, but only in the same way the arsenic in apple seeds if technically not safe). As a result, there's a kind of mental clash between the conscious mind and the lower-order processing that basically places coffee-drinking in the same experiential category as... well... any inherently dangerous behavior that still triggers (as coffee's smell and caffeine both do) positive brain-reactions that result in a release of dopamine.

Coffee is literally a placebo for high-risk self-destructive behavior. It fools the brain into that same chemical chain of 'I'M DEFYING DEATH!!!' experience.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#346 - 2017-05-22 21:10:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Arrendis wrote:
Coffee is literally a placebo for high-risk self-destructive behavior. It fools the brain into that same chemical chain of 'I'M DEFYING DEATH!!!' experience.

Only, under that analysis, can't basically any spice be described the same way?

We take stuff that's evolved a defensive characteristic that makes it taste bad (only, I think, not necessarily poison-like, but really really strong?) or causes inflamation (hot peppers, for example), and subvert that characteristic to make food more interesting. I think we're the only species that does that, but I'm not sure.

Anyway, I don't think you get the same kind of buzz out of those as out of, for example, eating a kind of fish that'll do you right in if you don't prepare it just so?
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#347 - 2017-05-22 21:13:25 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Eh, coffee's just a placebo for self-destructive behavior, anyway.


If you consider pulling all-nighters for days at end to be self-destructive, yes.


No, actually... see, here's the thing: coffee, as normally prepared, is extremely bitter. That's because of which chemical receptors in the mouth and on the tongue coffee triggers and interacts with. Those specific chemical receptors are read by the brain as 'THIS IS BAD'... because that's actually why they're there. Most extremely bitter natural compounds are highly toxic. So we've got taste buds that interact with them expressly so the brain can go 'this is poison!'

So, when we drink coffee, there's a level of 'this is poison!' going on in the back of the brain. But we know, consciously, that coffee's safe to drink (it's actually not, especially for the young, but only in the same way the arsenic in apple seeds if technically not safe). As a result, there's a kind of mental clash between the conscious mind and the lower-order processing that basically places coffee-drinking in the same experiential category as... well... any inherently dangerous behavior that still triggers (as coffee's smell and caffeine both do) positive brain-reactions that result in a release of dopamine.

Coffee is literally a placebo for high-risk self-destructive behavior. It fools the brain into that same chemical chain of 'I'M DEFYING DEATH!!!' experience.


Why is clean air tasteless them? The oxygen in it is slowly setting your lungs on fire, doesn't get much worse than that.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#348 - 2017-05-23 01:32:33 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Eh, coffee's just a placebo for self-destructive behavior, anyway.


If you consider pulling all-nighters for days at end to be self-destructive, yes.


No, actually... see, here's the thing: coffee, as normally prepared, is extremely bitter. That's because of which chemical receptors in the mouth and on the tongue coffee triggers and interacts with. Those specific chemical receptors are read by the brain as 'THIS IS BAD'... because that's actually why they're there. Most extremely bitter natural compounds are highly toxic. So we've got taste buds that interact with them expressly so the brain can go 'this is poison!'

So, when we drink coffee, there's a level of 'this is poison!' going on in the back of the brain. But we know, consciously, that coffee's safe to drink (it's actually not, especially for the young, but only in the same way the arsenic in apple seeds if technically not safe). As a result, there's a kind of mental clash between the conscious mind and the lower-order processing that basically places coffee-drinking in the same experiential category as... well... any inherently dangerous behavior that still triggers (as coffee's smell and caffeine both do) positive brain-reactions that result in a release of dopamine.

Coffee is literally a placebo for high-risk self-destructive behavior. It fools the brain into that same chemical chain of 'I'M DEFYING DEATH!!!' experience.


You do realise that there is more to coffee than just extreme bitterness and extreme wakefulness, right?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#349 - 2017-05-23 01:36:14 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
You do realise that there is more to coffee than just extreme bitterness and extreme wakefulness, right?


I do! But those two elements (Well, the bitterness, really, the caffeine's just a contributing factor) are the crux of the 'stand-in for self-destruction'.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#350 - 2017-05-23 01:57:51 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
You do realise that there is more to coffee than just extreme bitterness and extreme wakefulness, right?


I do! But those two elements (Well, the bitterness, really, the caffeine's just a contributing factor) are the crux of the 'stand-in for self-destruction'.


You might also want to recall that some of us really hate the bitterness and proceed to practically drown the thing in sugar and creamer.

Though screw that, I like mine black, to ensure I could actually taste the subtle flavours and smell the aroma.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#351 - 2017-05-23 02:22:39 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

You might also want to recall that some of us really hate the bitterness and proceed to practically drown the thing in sugar and creamer.


Sure, but that's the funny thing about chemical receptors like taste buds: you can mask the bitterness, and you can make sure the amount of noise from the sugar and creamer overwhelms the conscious mind's ability to pick up on the signal of 'bitter!', but you can't block the taste. Those chemical receptors still get triggered, and the lower-order functions of the brain aren't fooled.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#352 - 2017-05-23 13:51:34 UTC
And continuing the culinary vein...

Casserina Leshrac wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Bloody war of the Blood Age of Blood day 1.9 log

Operation Cheese Sandwich Debriefing

A Cheese sandwich was consumed.

The sandwich consisted of 3 slices of bread with two slices of cheese.

It was quite good.


Two quick questions.

What kind of cheese?

And what kind of bread?

Very important questions.


There's also the issue of if it was a 'normal' cheese sandwich or a grilled cheese. Of course, she's already got the balance completely off with the extra wad of empty carbs in the middle, but maybe the cheese slices were each 5mm thick...
Jev North
Doomheim
#353 - 2017-05-23 15:42:17 UTC
Just remember to dip in ketchup as you eat to keep your Blooder cred.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#354 - 2017-05-23 16:53:39 UTC
Jev North wrote:
Just remember to dip in ketchup as you eat to keep your Blooder cred.


Better with a Tomato Bisque I think.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#355 - 2017-05-23 16:54:57 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
And continuing the culinary vein...

Casserina Leshrac wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Bloody war of the Blood Age of Blood day 1.9 log

Operation Cheese Sandwich Debriefing

A Cheese sandwich was consumed.

The sandwich consisted of 3 slices of bread with two slices of cheese.

It was quite good.


Two quick questions.

What kind of cheese?

And what kind of bread?

Very important questions.


There's also the issue of if it was a 'normal' cheese sandwich or a grilled cheese. Of course, she's already got the balance completely off with the extra wad of empty carbs in the middle, but maybe the cheese slices were each 5mm thick...


Hence the question about the cheese and the bread. And now was is one type of cheese or two. A cheese sandwich is a complex issue.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#356 - 2017-05-23 17:09:00 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
And continuing the culinary vein...

Casserina Leshrac wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Bloody war of the Blood Age of Blood day 1.9 log

Operation Cheese Sandwich Debriefing

A Cheese sandwich was consumed.

The sandwich consisted of 3 slices of bread with two slices of cheese.

It was quite good.


Two quick questions.

What kind of cheese?

And what kind of bread?

Very important questions.


There's also the issue of if it was a 'normal' cheese sandwich or a grilled cheese. Of course, she's already got the balance completely off with the extra wad of empty carbs in the middle, but maybe the cheese slices were each 5mm thick...


OPSEC

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#357 - 2017-05-23 17:36:31 UTC
I hate when that happens.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#358 - 2017-05-23 18:33:13 UTC
Alright then, I'll just have to review the miniluv kill logs to see which types of cheese have been getting shipped in that direction.
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#359 - 2017-05-23 22:48:59 UTC
((@kul Shaishi: Sorry to bring it up again if somebody's already mentioned it, but:

I just read through Nauppy's latest thread. We get it. You like your modern Chinese history. It doesn't belong in Eve RP.))

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

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Arrendis
TK Corp
#360 - 2017-05-24 04:08:06 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
That's rich talk about ego from someone with what, six different titles after their name?


Actually, those aren't titles. She had her name legally changed to all that. It's why they call it a 'Long-form certificate'