EVE General Discussion

(and it happened!)

Hey OP, check if the launcher says something like "EvE Online". If it does, you are playing the right game.

Your KB show 30 - 12 and every kill you've had was part of a 10+ gang almost all of those kills were 2017 so I would say prior to then you did little if any PVP

I am a player you are a player I versed you :) sounds like Player verses Player or "PVP"

its not our fault you couldn't be bothered to fit a tank/ guns or even just went afk in space in your pod, I mean seriously if you value your ship/pod that much to post tears on the forums then defend them or lose them.

Each culture, each game has its unique linguistics and definitions.

If the majority of people in Eve do not define PvP to include ganking so be it.

Even established words in common usage in the broader community change over time.




It's also true people with low IQ can not cope well with change or the nuances of different cultures.




Yes - a straw poll of the Eve community has concluded PvP does not include ganking.

Eve has spoken!

(Any request for the survey data can be made to my office in Tama in person.)

LOL, my ex found me playing Eve hillarious, she would laugh at the name of a cloaky camper "Mr Gronk" everytime his name was mentioned.

She also laughed at us lot who post regular on forums and said it was silly that we spend more time typing about Eve than actually playing it. I played her the "this is REALLLY Eve" video and she could not understand what all the emotion was about. That guy screaming at the end had us both LOL'ing

I had a thought. CCP Earn 50m to 100m per year I'm sure they have assets so why have they not hired actual people to be NPC agents? Somebody could role-play a war hardened vet as if it was an acting career and enthusiastically set up stuff for noobs to do and be onhand to answer questions.

I know how some people think and they would like this people would find it cool to be associated with human NPC agents. I know CCP have done it a couple of times where CCP staff were controlling ships and interacting with the community.

CCP, sign me up as an employee on a 3 year contract for £25,000 per year and I will quit my regular job and play Eve for 50 hours a week. I will create content for new pilots and ensure that people have exciting times and ensure their continued subscription to Eve.

I'm making a new style of gameplay in Eve. I fly and make money. I don't haul. I don't always explore. I don't strictly need to be good at PvP, though I enjoy the rush. I repeat: I fly and make money.

The best place to go for rich economic play is null sec. I want to show people. I want them to succeed and freely zip all over the map and do what they do, but do it in null. I can take you on a tour. I can help you make your first null ISK.

I've begun offering to take pilots on a tour of nullsec in whatever ship they have (I can probably get them through) because I've realized a surprising number of those focused on economics never leave highsec.

The best economics are in nullsec. If you want to make things work when they do not work, the real wild wild west, then the rewards are there for the taking. If you really think you're interested in economic meta game or whatever, I guarantee you that nullsec is the place. I've been teaching someone on the public channel. Unsurprisingly they are killing it.

I see huge amounts of crazy assumptions about what is needed to trade in nullsec successfully.

• You don't need an alliance!
• You don't need a jump freighter!
• The only thing you need to ever haul is ass!
• No POS's or sov
• No pirates
• No permission
• No 0.1-upping at the station

99% of null is just peaceful space and I spend a good amount of time watching alliance operations or hacking cans out of curiosity and to play cat & mouse games.

If you want to make more money than you make in highsec and have a lot more fun doing it while having so much free time not spent at the helm of a slow-ass freighter getting bumped every three months by CODE, please, accept my invitation to come fly around in nullsec and taste the freedom and profits yourself!

Find me in game or the corp that I've formed to encapsulate this push, the Liberal Universalists.

FYI I'm also into faction warfare and would be happy to gang with you while we dumpster pirates in lowsec, but this invite is all about just convincing people to get comfortable flying through gate camps and managing null rather than avoiding it.

Someone asked me if I'm RP because I'm too hardcore in delivering the liberal message. I said no because I began this fully aware that the ratchet would be successful. If you would like to create a niche somewhat like MC actually fulfills a real role, again, check out my brand shiny new corp and be ready to be the best traders in the game and use that power to add an aspect to the game.

If groups like MC didn't exist, people would be saying, "I'm surprised that the people trying to be mercenaries haven't formed a bigger corporation and gotten credibly capable of delivering a product"

which movies are you talking about?

also 3 lows is plenty enough for defense if you actually bother to pack for tank rather than cargo space.

While "bad" (based on perspective) things do happen in the game, it's long known that people whose "game" is actually the destruction of this game like to hang out in forums and corp chats and constantly harp on how bad things are, instaganking everywhere, every corp full of dysfunction and drama, low and nullsec entirely inaccessible, and just about every other nook and cranny of certain doom and learned helplessness.

Application of their claims in the "real" world (actually undocking instead of reading their BS) show them to be entirely untrue. Even the self-aggrandizement of the gank community is false (freighters are still on autopilot through the Uedama-Niarja pipeline and the pilots already factored loss into their business models and don't care).

This is why the majority of the player base, and most MMO players, don't read forums nor interact much in-game. Entire studies can be made on how people "filter" each other in these MMOs.

My theory is that this kind of brigading of falsity was started by goons as a means of making less experienced players think that the only way to leave highsec was to join goons (or else just lose all hope). Looking at the meme wars and informational warfare on the internet today and the base of this being internet forums and direct communications, it would only be the goons who would try it and garner some success of it. Since we are now seeing goon recruitment scams once more (2009 all over again) and apparently some reconstituting of goons in these years after World War Bee, it's only fitting that suddenly we would start seeing these old saws again regarding hopelessness, permacamp raep cages at every gate, instaganks, and certain doom. It certainly worked before, and swelled the ranks of goons who for the most part became "null bears". When the great war broke out, most of them were no shows beyond providing very interesting loss mails from the more successful nullbears making a run for it with all of their loot. If this latest move is successful then we risk returning to the days of "blue donut" and nullsec stagnation once more.

It's unfortunate that CCP never identified these propaganda efforts and took measures to do anything about it beyond buffing nullsec income which only benefitted the perpetrators of the propaganda in the long term.