Crime & Punishment

My sides have achieved orbit.

for all you code people that are touched in the head I will repeat.
I have never mined an ounce of ore in eve.....

Literally everyone here is calmer than you. Show me on the doll where the nasty ganker touched you :



I just think it is fun to fire back at any code 6ucker that responds.
FYI I started eve (2008) back before the bloated vets started flowing tears about any game changes.
I never had a mining ship, I liked cladari ships and worked to get a CNR for missions, then later a Navy Abaddon.

When CCP did this freebie starter thing to patch the hulls of the titanic I started this character.
Soon I remembered how boring just flying around doing missions was and just use this char to bust codes balls....just because.

I have never been ganked, in fact all I ever did was missions and some station trading.
Eve is far too boring to take seriously let alone waste my time actually playing.
Thanks for asking and im holding my chemically reduced scrotum in your honor.

actually this sums up a lot of points quite nicely. Eve PvE is terrible and people should get to experience PvP asap. This is where enterprising individuals in highsec play an invaluable part in player retention

actually this sums up a lot of points quite nicely. Eve PvE is terrible and people should get to experience PvP asap. This is where enterprising individuals in highsec play an invaluable part in player retention[/quote]


I wasn't a hardcore player with my life devoted to the game.
Eve was just someplace to kill an hour or two and play a game, I was a big star wars galaxies player.
In fact I did allot of PVP in SWG and was a rebel general in the gcw's with allot of pvp kills.

Eve just didnt hold my attention simply because of being stuck in a ship pressing buttons.[/quote]
Having no meaningful interaction with another human in a mmo. It wouldn't be for me either

Hey if you want Code to be gone and soon forgotten, maybe not have a reference to them in your signature?

Just a thought.

New signature achieved. Thank you.

Cool story, bro, but now take my order and bring me a beer.

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Cool story, bro, but now take my order and bring me a beer.
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Toss my salad 4ick

This is an interesting thread. I applaud the stance the OP is taking.

However I am afraid that this is not enough. If you want to fix Crime in EVE, then EVE itself needs to have some systemic face lift. People keep talking about how not many new players come to the game and most are alts of old accounts. People speak of how EVE is not retaining that many players. The game is what 13 years old and it still hovers to between 300 and 500 active players I think for that long?

Which means as many people come in that many people also quit.

If you want to address the game if EVE is to be a game played by Millions at the same time, then EVE needs to make some changes and shift towards a more Just environment.

Do not take me wrong, I am all for the Sandbox aspect of EVE, and Ia m definitely for the fact that EVE is one of the rare games offering to the players the choice to be good or evil.

The problem is however, in comparison to similar games that in the other games being good is the challenge and being good is encouraged. The ration between good and evil in similar sandbox games is 75% good 25% evil to 85% good 15% evil.

In EVE, has been designed as a dystopia and the ratios are actually reversed. People in EVE wait in line for the opportunity to be evil.

This is no fertile ground for new players, it is actually a filter which weeds out players wishing to be good.

If you want to raise the population of eve you have to make fertile ground for people wanting to be good. I am not saying eliminating the existing player base though.

I think nullsec is more than fine as it is, that is sovereign corp/alliance battleground and that is actually an exciting prospect for new players something to look for when they advance some.

The problem is not in Wormhole Space either, while it is wild wild west where people massacre each other too it at least has some mechanics which help people avoid being hunted all the time.

The problem is in Empire space, where new players start out.

It needs revamp, here are some suggestions:

- Extending High Sec to 0.2, meaning Concord behaving in 0.2 as it behaves in 0.5, and 0.1 becoming the new 0.4.

- Enhancing responsiveness and lethality of Concord.

- Raising the Security loss resulting from Illegal actions, right now it is pitiful, people gank and attack undefended players at every opportunity in 0.4 without losing enough Security for it to be a deterrent.

-Suicide Ganks in Empire space should be rendered almost impossible.

-Corp Wars should cost much more, it is very easy to produce the fees now. Anyone who doe snot like someone else can get with their buddies and War dec the other, and especially clueless new players and coprs just because someone did not like their attitude or looks, and be chased out of the game early on.

People quit when they can't progress in a fun way. It is normal because it is not fun to be blocked from playing a game..

And the cardinal rule is and remains, a that all players are here to have fun first and foremost. So the sandbox, free and openness end nature of the game needs to have some balances to avoid situation where the behaviour of a game's community actually prevents its own growth.

Some say it is funny how everyone seems to talk about Risk Vs Reward but then when a miner risks it in 0.4, the ganker has no risk at all and only has reward. What good is Sec loss when you can buy your way out of it? There are no consequences to ones choice to be evil, there are only consequences to people who choose to be good.

The game is too limiting in that regard.

Now, there is a significant number of players constituting the "Pirate" community which live and thrive and gank in Low sec. I am not suggesting to eliminate them, but they need to be displaced, add a new region in space that would be all 0.1 Border/fringe Empire space so they can play there between the Sovereign nullsec and Empire spaces. Or add a region like the Jovian space as a new region discovered and not fully claimed by anyone, hence 0.1 that becomes the Pirate Galactic Archipelago.

But at the same time New players will be able to advanced more by having Empire space expanded without other players eliminating them out of the game.

The idea is simple, make the game more fun for new and intermediate players, let the competition be consensual and at an advanced stage.

Often new players are told to adapt to EVE's realities in order to grow and be successful .however, if EVE as a game itself wants to grow, it also has to adapt to the Reality of the playerbase too.

The choice is really there and it all depends what CCP and what the players wish all together. Do you want to keep EVE a niche game? Or make it more open to a lager playerbase?

One thing is for sure, other games with EVE's scope are in the making, but they are not going to be based on a Dark Dystopian Universe, where wanting to just have fun is seen a a crime to be punished at every opportunity.

Food for thought.