EVE General Discussion

So everything is fine.

No change or discussion on change, is necessary or validated.

The game is entirely perfect.

Fire the Devs, cease development, shutdown the forums.

Everything is fine as it is.
Do not question how things are.
They are what they are.

LMAO

This right here man, it's perfect. It's the typical response of the unhappy type of person that wants 'change' in everything they encounter. I've dealt with people like that my entire life and it's equal measures of annoying and funny.

If you like something for what it is and don't see it as some broken thing only some genius on the forum (who isn't any kind of game designer) can fix, you are "against all change and want things to stay the same" according to the "any change" types. What you said here is literally the default answer every.single.unhappy forum poster has ever given me.

What you (and the kind of folks I mention) don't understand is that some of us just don't care about such things. If we like a video game we play it (and talk about it, like on these forums), if we don't we leave and find something we do like. But the 'force change!' people stay and complain and make long winded posts about what should be fixed and then start spouting nonsense about conspiracies surrounding why it's not 'fixed' etc etc.



TL;DR For those of us who adapt to things rather than try to change them to suit our wants and needs, yea, everything is fine for the most part. It's ok if things change for the better, but no rush, we're pretty content right now. If you aren't then well, that's your issue.

Damn you to Hek (the minmatar planet, it's a real ghetto) for saying this better than I could.

I've already conceded the argument. If you want to continue to draw it out for your pound of flesh then knock yourself out.

As a Explorer I'm grateful for all pirates, gankers and other players who are out there making my trips into Wormhole and Null space exiting. I don´t want to think about how tedious and boring it would be if I didn´t have to be alert and looking for danger.

One would think that I as a non-violent character (Corp Credo) would dislike PvP but as have been said before in this thread being the prey in the hunt can be just as fun if not more then to be the hunter. This is also why I like Wormholes the most, the lack of Local makes the tension even greater since you never know who else is in there and what their objectives are.

To the OP and others who don´t like PvP I can just say: Embrace the danger and turn it into something positive and exhilarating. PvP can be fun regardless of wheater you search for or try to avoid it.

Why all the agro? Why the name-calling? Do you understand the glaring contradiction in your statement " it's narrow minded to assume your playstyle has any right at all to exist seperately from the rest." That statement is the very definition of narrow-mindedness. It sounds like you are telling me that if I don't come to wherever you are in-game and submit to being blown up every time you and your friends feel like blowing someone up, I'm somehow lesser than you. It sounds like you are trying to FORCE everybody to play your way. I'm not trying to force you or anyone who likes PVP combat to play my way. As I said before, "more power to you." I get the feeling that you just can't stand the knowledge that somewhere in EVE, there are people who are perfectly happy mining veldspar and making munitions and ship components and hauling them around to see if they can get a better price. You might call that boring. Well, TO ME, sitting by a gate waiting for somebody to jump through so you can attack them is boring. But hey, it's your account; do what you want.

The other night I spent a couple hours mining scordite, then flew to a system where I sold it and bought some skill books. Then I returned to my base and started a production run of 500 Scourge light missiles. I really enjoyed myself. As much, I'm sure, as you enjoyed your gaming session that night. I don't feel threatened by the way you choose to play, because I don't go to 0.0 space. Why do you feel threatened by the way I play? I'm not "stupid." I'm just different from you.

Please read a post before you attack the person who wrote it. You wrote: "...Instead you bleat to anyone who will listen that the game is broken and you shouldn't have to adapt in any way because it's a game and 'games are supposed to be fun' ". I never said the game is broken, and I never said I should not have to adapt in any way. I said I DON'T CARE about adapting the way you apparently think I should. It simply IS NOT IMPORTANT TO ME.

Maybe the person who started this thread thinks those things, but I don't interface with gate campers so it does not bother me. What I DID say is that unless there can be found some middle ground between one playing style and the other, people will leave and EVE will go away for good. Who wants that? I don't.

Do you understand that this is just a game?

You are probably young enough to be my grandson. Which means that you have not done a lot of living. So trust me on this one: EVE is not teaching you any life lessons. It's just entertainment--and good entertainment at that. If you think you are learning any valuable life lessons by playing this online game, you are probably not a person a well-rounded human being would want to meet.

EVE is simply a distraction from life's problems. The fun you have playing it isn't any more or less valid than the fun I have playing it. You simply do not have the right to pass judgment on how I spend my free time and what I determine to be fun FOR ME.

For a game that promotes shooting other players, it's not exactly easy to achieve this. Low-sec, null-sec and wormhole space are really stacked against new players (at least until they get some combat experience and train-up some skills). Duels, flashy suspects and other station games are not geared towards new players.

If it didn't have such potential for abuse I'd let Alphas roam around shooting Omegas to get into limited engagements.

In my view, Local in Player Sov is broken and irrational.

To use your analogy of windows and doors in a house, Local constitutes a panoramic, perfect view of surroundings from anywhere in your house. You never have to move to another window to check if anything is coming from that direction.

Player Sov is player controlled autonomous space. It is not rational that it should have automatic NPC sourced Local intel.
Players themselves should be responsible for accruing that intel, in player owned space.

You might want to check definition of words 'to force' and 'to play'.

I don't feel I'm having differences of a semantic nature here with Mr Moergyn (or the rest of the English speaking community). But I can very well be mistaken. Feel free to elaborate in order to further shape my language skills, I'm always glad to be corrected.