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NPC Mining Operations have now begun on Singularity

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Nomistrav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2016-10-29 07:41:11 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Some more answers that we can answer right now:

  • They will spawn in High, Low, Null security space. But not wormholes.
  • The spawn is not definite, meaning they won't always be in the same system at the same time every day.
  • NPCs will scale with system security.
  • NPC fits are completely different, they reflect player ships much more than before. Ultimately, they're fit for PvP.
  • There can be overlap from different mining operations, the primary goal is gathering ore.
  • There is an incentive to attack them. More information from CCP Larrikin at EVE Vegas this weekend.


  • Some issues:

    • Overview and brackets being broken is a current issue on Singularity.


    That's interesting. If two mining operations of opposing factions are in the same belt, will they engage one another?

    Velarra wrote:
    Will pirate mining operations respect player character Pirate Faction & Pirate Corp standings?

    If you have high pirate standings, can you provide logistics / on grid mining boost support to the npc pirate mining fleets ?

    If they should come under attack by other players, can you rep them and keep them alive giving the pirate fleet a chance to warp out?


    Curious about this as well. I'm wondering if we are allowed to defend friendly factions' mining operations if we see that they're under attack. Would be an interesting way to offset the difficulty once players figure out how to handle up on the warp-in fleets (because you know they will).

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    Akrasjel Lanate
    Lanate Industries
    #102 - 2016-10-29 08:55:19 UTC
    NPC corporations standings don't mean much in compare to faction one is this going to change ?
    The rescue NPC fleets that will protect those NPC mining ones, will they have bounty on them or drop loot, basing on the Keynote we don't want them to be simply farmable for that loot/ISK ?

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    #103 - 2016-10-29 09:49:58 UTC
    Do NPC mining affect null industry level?
    JonnyPew
    Doomheim
    #104 - 2016-10-29 15:40:35 UTC
    I can't find any NPC mining operation spawns.

    I searched high sec (guristas space)
    I searched low sec (guristas space)
    I searched null sec (serpentis space)

    Nothing found.

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    Amak Boma
    Dragon Factory
    #105 - 2016-10-29 21:25:26 UTC
    any recent reports of npc miners location?
    Amak Boma
    Dragon Factory
    #106 - 2016-10-29 22:02:49 UTC
    currently there is fleet of ventures in two belts in system fram grab a ceptor and check yourself
    Jennifer Maxwell
    Crimson Serpent Syndicate
    #107 - 2016-10-30 04:19:00 UTC
    It seems from what I've seen, miners only spawn in systems with Corporate mining stations in them. I.E. Minedrill, Drucia, ect.

    Could we get a confirmation on that, CCP? It would really help us find them if we know to look for certain stations in system.

    Also, you said three corps per faction will spawn these miners. Could you tell us which twelve corps this will be?
    Turelus
    Utassi Security
    Second State
    #108 - 2016-10-30 05:37:49 UTC
    Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
    It seems from what I've seen, miners only spawn in systems with Corporate mining stations in them. I.E. Minedrill, Drucia, ect.

    Could we get a confirmation on that, CCP? It would really help us find them if we know to look for certain stations in system.

    Also, you said three corps per faction will spawn these miners. Could you tell us which twelve corps this will be?


    I believe I had an Amarr spawn in a system without an Amarr station (Caldari Space), not sure is the other stations there were Caldari Indy Corps though.

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    Irtep Olmeke
    Olmeke Industries
    #109 - 2016-10-30 11:22:24 UTC
    What about Nefantar Miner Association it's also a mining corporation ?
    Kueyen
    Angharradh's Aegis
    #110 - 2016-10-30 12:46:17 UTC
    4 Astral Mining skiffs sighted in the sole belt in Aufay. Really added additional atmosphere to the site.

    No, I did not shoot them to see what would happen. I was drone-mining alongside them in my Orca.

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    fightingblind
    Strategically Bad
    Trailer Park Illuminati
    #111 - 2016-10-30 13:23:46 UTC
    Nam Dnilb wrote:
    Any definitive sightings? Can't find any. Also, bring back Hauler spawns on stations. They were cute.Big smile


    played around with a group of 8 ventures... they warped out, and frig fleet warped in... they couldn't kill me, but I couldn't hit them... problem was that I was scrammed, so I was stuck lol
    Daniel Jackson
    Universal Exos
    #112 - 2016-10-30 18:25:42 UTC
    i been seeign alot of them in minmatar space and they are extremely hard to take on XD
    Amak Boma
    Dragon Factory
    #113 - 2016-10-30 19:06:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Amak Boma
    managed to lose moros to defense fleet xD

    i could not find any spawn in drone space spent an hour searching belts in etherium reach and spire with no avail. great wildlands also had no any spawn of miners in aridia there was hauler with miners in system huna killed it but wreck was empty like wrecks of haulers in intaki system
    Lavayar
    ANGELGARD.
    The Initiative.
    #114 - 2016-10-31 07:50:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Lavayar
    Watched EvE Vegas presentation. Mining Operations will drop random lootboxes?

    CCP are you mad? If it was decided for EVE to become free-to-play, it is not the reason for using the worst practices of free-to-play.
    Amak Boma
    Dragon Factory
    #115 - 2016-10-31 10:13:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Amak Boma
    there must be a bug because skiffs mined ferry kernite after friend killed one he found in wreck scordite.
    also found way to improve the mining ops by rats by adding them a rorqual / freighter spawns and npc cynos for npc jump freighters/rorquals

    defensive options for lowsec npc belt miners - logistic frigates/cruisers repairing mining ships and each other
    nullsec mining npc operations improvement carrier-dreadnought as ultimate defense force.

    role of rorquals in npc mining operations
    - compress the ore for npc's
    - icnrease mining effectivnes
    -enchanced defending for fleet

    role of freighters in npc mining operations
    - storage of the mined materials

    npc citadels and npc owned structures (os)
    - ship building and storaging
    - mining fleet staging point
    - defense fleet staging point
    - mined ore storage

    same goes for npc citadel but protects the ships by tethering them

    npc operations could deploy
    large control towers in null security space from -1.0 to 0.0
    large control towers in low security space 0.1
    medium control towers in low security space from 0.2 to 0.4
    medium control towers in high security space 0.5
    small control towers in high security space 0.6 to 1.0

    maximum owned npc towers 4 per system where the mining corporation has headquarters
    one reinforced timer 48 hour and prepare for massive defense fleet

    citadel placement by npcs
    keepstars -1.0
    fortizars from -0.9 to 0.2
    astrahus 0.3 to 1.0

    maximum citadel owned by npc 2 per system where their mining corporation has headquarters
    normal reinforcement timers like on player owned citadels and large defensive fleet willt ry to defend citadel

    NPC loot from poses?
    rare - ships , modules and ore
    standard - some ore and some modules salvage materials present

    NPC loot from citadels?
    same as above with small chance for more loot
    CCP Paradox
    #116 - 2016-10-31 10:46:10 UTC
    Lavayar wrote:
    Watched EvE Vegas presentation. Mining Operations will drop random lootboxes?

    CCP are you mad? If it was decided for EVE to become free-to-play, it is not the reason for using the worst practices of free-to-play.


    This is simply a step of; Instead of dropping all items inside the wreck, they will be inside a box. You can then open it or sell it to someone else, perhaps for a higher price of the contents. A gamble at the discretion of whoever opens the box. There is nothing else involved in this process.

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    Darrien
    Aliastra
    Gallente Federation
    #117 - 2016-10-31 12:04:49 UTC
    Can you imagine the utter **** storm if CCP decided to sell C to X class loot boxes Shocked as micro transactions.
    Amak Boma
    Dragon Factory
    #118 - 2016-10-31 12:48:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Amak Boma
    the box withr andom loot is lottery . they can nerf it by making it openable with plex but the content of box must be worthy to risk instad of single metal scraps
    Samsara Toldya
    Academy of Contradictory Behaviour
    #119 - 2016-10-31 14:18:52 UTC
    Finally found a mining fleet with 7 Skiff in Niarja.
    Great choice of ship for mining in that system.

    450 paper DPS was barely able to scratch those Skiff shields - seem to be pretty equal to "real" Skiffs.

    Response Fleet was 5 or 6 frigates, Skiff escaped, killed the whole response fleet.

    Standing loss to HZO Refinery: -0.008% for destroying a Executioner in Niarja.

    Neither attacking the Skiff nor destroying the other frigates gave a standing hit. Bug or intented?

    I guess I could repair my standing with a single level 2 distribution mission for HZO in no time. That doesn't feel right.
    FearlessLittleToaster
    GoonWaffe
    Goonswarm Federation
    #120 - 2016-10-31 14:51:41 UTC
    CCP Paradox wrote:
    This is simply a step of; Instead of dropping all items inside the wreck, they will be inside a box. You can then open it or sell it to someone else, perhaps for a higher price of the contents. A gamble at the discretion of whoever opens the box. There is nothing else involved in this process.


    I haven't gotten a chance to watch the Eve Vegas presentation yet, so posting here. So I am completely 100% clear, the wrecks will drop a box which can be opened without needing any special key?

    If that's all the loot boxes are I kinda like it... another way to screw with people. If you need some kind of widget that must be bought with Aurum or something to open them then this is an awful design and please don't do that.