EVE General Discussion

Agreed.

Someone recommended that WIS should be "Free to Play" and that to fly and earn skill points you have to use PLEX (Pilots License... makes perfect sense) - or subscribe of course.


That'd be a brilliant way to boost certain station activities and fill stations - and add new professions - passenger transport for capsuleers.

Meanwhile, providing certain players the opportunity to explore EVE and pay for it when they felt like it - providing a social experience for those who are interested in a SCI FI social experience.


Combined with some of the other ideas (included the ones I presented earlier) this would be a GREAT addition to EVE IMHO.

I know a lot of my friends would love to login to EVE without paying for it - and I could socialize with them and get them to work in a Bar, let's say, and socialize with other players.

Some would become "Traders" but not able to fly and would need transport pilots to move things for them, etc.


Highly recommended and great suggestion whoever came up with it. Consider DUST players will be Free 2 Play as well, and this becomes a great paradigm that makes sense across EVE and adding intrigue and an easy "Return value" for players who want to be part time EVE players - and for Bitter vets to complain at while sitting in bars telling tales of grandeur who don't want to play EVE for a few months to those souls who have never stepped off a station.

My point about this being a "throw us a bone answer" is simple. What we have been told that there are 5 folks, mostly in a maintenance capacity the only "new" WiS content is decorations for the Captains Cell and some new NEX stuff.

I am very happy we are being talked to but I'm disappointed in what I am hearing because I interpret the response as not much different that WiS is dead. They would have to have some folks maintaining WiS and mostly this is what it sounds like we have.

We are then told they are also trying to find a way to make ambulation "compelling" and "relevant". There were dozens of suggestions in this thread alone. If they think something simple wouldn't be a start says they could care less about anyone interested in RP.

What we are basically being told is that once again CCP is falling into the trap of thinking it has be some sort of big game play element. This lets them rationalize putting this off long term. Based on recent "major game play improvements" like the POCO I am not so confident their idea of compelling ambulation game play can be expected to be a good thing.

"Well sure, we could open the door but we don't think it would be compelling..... blah blah blah".

We don't need anything major, some common spaces would be simple and a good start. CCP, show us you actually will open the door and start with something simple. A corp lounge for example. Until I actually see some example of more than one of us in a room at once I don't believe CCP is intending to ever open the door (or even can with the current engine).

CCP, don't over think this, start simple, even if it is just some experiments on the test server to see what we think.

Issler

No problem, there's a lot more threads scattered throughout the different sub forums that contain ideas for WiS content, if you plan on making 'Features & Ideas Discussion' the main sub forum for this, probably be a good idea to post a 'Sticky' in each sub forum channel directing players to post there. Not everyone reads or posts in 'General Discussion' due to obvious reasons.

Also the 'war room' idea is epic. Whomever came up with that idea is surely a visionary and should quickly be offered employment at CCP. :P

Note: This is for a large part a rewrite from a few pages back, done because CCP Bayeshian will (hopefully) notice the questions.

Hmm, well, I don't know about other folks, but I care about as much about visual additions as I did about the racial CQ's: not much at all. So I really hope that that is not what you think we will enjoy. On the other hand, if you have NeX items ready to be deployed, I see no reason to not do so.
However, what is lacking in Incarna is gameplay and interaction. No amount of furniture/clothes will change that.

I get the idea that you (CCP) for some reason are back to the drawing board, as if a lot of the ideas you've had for this are no good anymore. This is something that baffles a lot of players, as you seemed to have plenty of good ideas, even back in 2008.
I wonder what you people think was wrong with Incarna as you had intended to release it this winter, and why. Was it technical issues? Did you think the players wouldn't like the Incarna features because of the uproar last summer? What will be done differently than you had originally planned?
There was a graphical representation of the workload of "Incarna": ~1/4 character creator, ~1/2 CQ, ~1/4 the rest (multiplayer stuff). Is this still a valid representation?
What would be the shortest time before a multiplayer avatar enviroment will come to TQ, and what the longest?

I am glad that the CCP is finally talking to us again, and that now at least some people are working/planning on WiS.
But...
Feel free to forward my sentiment here to upper management, mostly paragraphs 2 and 5.

Thanks for setting up team Avatar. I'm not sure how many Devs work on content, but my guess is 5 people represents a fraction of the total that is close to the fraction of players who want Incarna developed.

Ideas:
Move the pod from the bottom of the stairs to where the "undock" button is, and make the pod be the undock button. When we dock have the avatar appear right in front of the pod and take a few steps forward to get close to the ship hologram. When we undock have the avatar walk to the pod. If its far away, the avatar may not make it there before the screen blacks, but at least its better than now. Then add some lore in a chonicle, like:

"When you get in your pod nanites quickly disassemble your clothes and store them in the pod. The pod is filled and you are 'plugged in'. While this happens your pod flies from the balcony to your ship, and your ship undocks.

Upon docking the pod is drained and you are cleaned and dried by nanites. Your stored clothing is then reassembled on your body by the nanites. In seconds you are ready to step out of the pod, fully cleaned and clothed, and onto the balcony."

Player created Incarna items: Give us tools for designing clothing, accessories, CQ decorations and furniture. To handle the TTP issue: It has to be vetted by CCP. The player "pays" for this vetting with Aurum. As Aurum is basically created with real money, this pays for the salary of the CCP vetter. If the creation is dubbed acceptable the player gets a BPO for the item.

Eve runs on a one second cycle, dictated by the size of the earth, the speed of light and the fact that players are everywhere. This makes actual combat with avatars difficult. (I think Dust will have distributed servers to get around this). But we can still have Incarna PvP activities: Gambling in establishments. And what should we gamble on in a spaceship game? How about spaceships?

Give us a way to have contests with spaceships that can be viewed on a big screen in an establishment and gambled upon. Races, EW football, all out combat. I'm not a fan of a instanced area where nothing is risked. I think it should be a deadspace area where certain rules are enforced by the game to allow these contests. (Why the game and not players? Because that would be so much effort that few, if anyone, would do it).

Multi-avatar environments need testing. In the short term at least make common areas for us role players. We generate content on our own, and there are enough of us for testing purposes, assuming its on TQ.

Can I please invite a friend to my CQ?

Glad to hear there is still at least some investment ongoing.

My biggest request would be to port over clothing options from the old character creator. There were a lot of distinctive outfits and accessories that I miss dearly.

I think the CQ should remain a private sanctuary that we can customize anyway we want with plants, pets, trophy's, servants, etc. To show it off to other players, it could have a Vid Phone option in the CQ which would allow others to view you in your CQ. That way the CQ will always be a safe heaven. The station should have other areas set up for more personal Avatar interaction.

Ever see the movie 'Soylent Green'?

Charlton Heston stars as a Detective investigating the death of a rich and powerful Corporate leader who lived in a posh apartment complex stocked with hard to get food, paper products, plants and "furniture", one of which was a live-in companion - a woman.