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That's not a bad idea on paper but what self respecting capsuleer under 50 mill skill points would want to stagger there training queues to match there online playing time.

To get CCP to sell them at that sort of price would be a miracle to, to them functionality and convenience always comes at a cost Look at the subscription to plex price now. To then divide that even further i would expect those microplex passes to be around 25+ dollars for 10. I'd prefer my training unhindered than worry when i could log on.

Hoping to get some mates to come back to game for short sessions using old accounts as Alphas.. maybe even roam for LOL's but will be mix of Omega and Alpha.

Definitely want an Alpha ore hauler for company when I mine on Omega... constantly mine and ore can and have Miasmo carry ore... wondering if most Alphas will Gallente for range on Industrial ships?
Also means I can fleet and use Omega bonuses... my time zone is AUS and often no one mining when I am... so nice and safe but hard to make effective...

I am worried that once my Alpha gets to 5 million SP I only need 500,000 more to start extracting... so one month plex from my Omega should have Alpha account able to covert SP => ISK => PLEX, and sub itself.. or close to it.

All those accounts looking for a PLEX... price rise ?

I do think that some good subscription offers would work... 12 months for price of 9 as a special or similar.... like, when you first subscribe... may work to convert people to Omega.

I am not sure the Alpha is the way to go... if it can be abused it will LOL... already looking at the spreadsheets to see what race can get to maximum SP before moving away from Alpha state...

Would Alpha be able to mind map? With limited skills to train I would strongly say no.... again the grow SP for extracting is easier if you can map to max a bunch of skills to extract.

And ..... yes I know you will all run away... I enjoy Planetary Industry... so once I can start extracting SP for ISK I can juggle to also get PI going on another account.... well 3 characters... 12 planets easy on weekly refit. ( Once I can Plex)

With slots for BPO copying... some sell orders ( well in NULL with no tax may be ok) I can see everyone wanting an Alpha ..

I can only see me ( eventually) flying super caps on one character... but a few extra accounts could be very useful and although I could make a huge carebear empire in SOV safespace I am not sure this is what CCP want... or game needs.

Nice to make a capital production line all using my accounts LOL... but I hope CCP reads some of the thoughts and looks at how to prevent them wrecking anything VERY carefully... I once was an Everquest addict but the game moved to a point it was aweful and when it became possible to run a bunch of accounts I did... I wish I had never gone back LOL.

I really don't want the same to happen to Eve.

I don't think this well help EVE to much, I've been playing since 2013 and still trying to learn how to pvp. The learning curb is far to complicated for most. My son started playing EVE, but found that you end up in the grind to make isk.

He just started plexying for in game isk to fund his very expensive ship loss due to trying to pvp, because that's what you expect when you join EVE is to pvp. Even when you go looking for a fight its hard to get one now because most are to worried about loosing there ship. He eventually pulled the pin on the game and says its far to boring.

I'm also considering moving on, because I don't think its worth the money you pay for the subscription. I'm also sick of the lag, you need a really good internet speed for this game, something I don't have. There are plenty of games out there on the market that are not so expensive.

My God...you have been playing for 1,803 years!?!!?!

I think you should petition to have your user name changed the Methuselah.

Good luck with your next game though. This game is not for everyone admittedly, although the trick to making it fun and interesting it to have friends in game--i.e. joining a corp, maybe and alliance and even better a coalition. That way there can be lots of stuff going on most of the time.

Good question and one nobody can answer except CCP and they almost surely won't.

So maybe we should just skip this one....

Well, there are free2play titles who will sell only vanity items and no items which change the game play. There are some who only accelerate progress. And there are some who sell gold ammo and those are called pay2win (like t2 weapons behind a paywall). Players recognise the difference. They will not buy all the seriously far fetched arguments about "it some kind of subscription based game thing.. it is basically an extended trial.. why are you looking at me this way?".

In EVE you will basically have all of the above:
- permanent vanity items for cash
- non-permanent access to gold ammo for cash
- SP (skill progress) for cash

What I try to say is basically, it looks seriously greedy for a free2play title! And new players will instantly see that given the price points of the above mentioned "paywalls".

This is my last post about this. There is no point in discussing it anymore I think. CCP will do whatever they want anyway and I am sure I will find some use for the new system as well. Fresh accounts with an alpha clone make greate corp infiltration toons and I always wanted to try that

Seriously, Lock Alpha characters into FW.

One of the biggest issues that people have in game is thinking of what to do ingame. There are so many different avenues of what to do that many people simply dont know where to go and never move to do things.

Start them off with a goal, a community and a reason to play. Start them off with a definitive enemy to shoot at.

Make new Alpha complexes for them to capture, let them go to the regular ones. Have the Fw store sell ships with fewer open slots and baked in modules/bonuses that make sense for a lower skilled character to use. Make these things cheap for alphas from the LP store.

They should be comparable to the regular t1 frigates we already have. make them reprocess into nothing though.

This can be made to make sense lore wise, As Empire factions decide to use excess cloning capacity to create their own soldiers for the cause and buying plex/subscriptions are you buying your freedom from the empires.

Lock them to one per launcher. the same way that trial characters are. lock safeties to yellow, they can still shoot wartargets in hisec. since the story is that they are part of the Empires military arm they dont get to do the same ganking that paying players get to do. simple.

I am sure there is more im not thinking of.

Aside from the pay to win issue...how else to you imagine people dying? Honorable 1v1 fights? Most ships I kill were in horrible lop sided fights were some hapless schlub got caught in our gate camp, by our gang, etc. Even the larger engagements they were when our FCs felt we had the upper hand in terms of fleet composition and capability.

The supply of meta frigate and cruiser modules is low enough that the prices will come down significantly with even a slight increase in supply. Alphas have little in the way of opportunity cost, they can collect funds over a few months to pay for that PLEX. I am not disputing your assertions and indeed I expect both to be true. That does not preclude players trying to play to pay.

The major impact will be affordable high meta level ganking fits.

Everybody has opportunity cost. Everything you do has an opportunity cost both in and out of game. Every choice entails opportunity cost. So careful with opportunity costs.

The problem I see with your narrative is that it entails both higher demand and higher supply with tend to offset each other, perhaps not perfectly but to some degree at least.