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CCP staffers post more frequently on Reddit because their brand and reputation have a *lot* more overall public exposure in a venue where they cannot completely control the narrative like they do here. The last thing CCP wants (from a PR perspective) is for accusations, complaints and potential misinformation to foment and go unanswered where they have so much public exposure.

Simply put: Threadnaughts there get more attention because it could damage CCP's business reputation if they did not respond. This is not exclusive to CCP, many other companies have had to "attend" Reddit in the same fashion, lest they suffer bad PR consequences.

Because lots of ppl read various social media, info "out there" comes back to official forums (of any game) fairly quickly.

People on the limited-time trials today can complain that the game is "pay to win," from their perspective. But they face a deadline where they must decide to pay, or move on to some other game. No more deadline.

@DrysonBennington: all "unsubscribed" (unpaid, inactive) accounts will become minimally usuable thanks to the new "alpha clone" mechanics.

Almost every night for the last 6 weeks or so? I live in the Amarr/Minnie FW zone (Amamake) with Liang, and the only alt I log into is in the Amarr FW. If you check my killboards you'll find that I spend a huge amount of time flying a T2/meta fit Executioner. The Tristan's pretty good, and I almost went with it. It's a pretty good example too. The restrictions on an alpha account will make me do 2-3x as much DPS and have 2-3x as much EHP.

That said, I've been out of game for about a week (a bit less on one of my altS). I've been taking some time to work, replay Alpha Protocol, and watch Jessica Jones.

-Liang

You snipped my edit doc, reread the original post.

Funny thing as well, for all that some prefer reddit because of the branched discussions and the way upvotes re-arrange topics supposedly from good to bad, even though wading through topics like this is sometimes a chore all comments are read and all are visible. The fact that some of us prefer eve-o should be respected - it's the forum we've created, for all it's quirks.

Demonstrating a preference for one or the other at a company level might be solid practice in the gaming world but antagonising segments of the community against each other is not. I really don't understand how this can be so hard to comprehend or why it is being so consistently ignored, especially given that the complaint has been made by many of the more thoughtful and constructive posters. Stop treating us with such obvious disdain. Good will is not infinite.

ed. won't keep spamming reply topics, but fair play for answering Liang. I was in lowsec with a group just over a year ago and after being largely nullsec for such a long time I was pretty astounded by just how popular the t1 friggie meta is there - even among high SP vets just as cheap, disposable fun. Plus been watching Rahne and the odd other derping around on stream and a hell of a lot of the time they don't go for t2 or faction because there's actually less chance of a fight if the sensible see an overpimped ship and leg it. I get what you are saying that newbros may take a low sp alt out and get squished if they use a very pared down fit - but it's possible they'd be fighting in a larger pool of similar age/level players than currently exists. There's also dueling against other newbeans and plenty of NPSI/newbro groups who organise low entry events. I acknowledge what you're saying that people who sub may feel a twinge of resentment if they see the trial as unplayable - just not sure if it can't be tweaked ongoing to be as attractive as possible.

Agreed. Reddit is garbage.

There's nothing wrong with using another website/SNS/forums to do PR work. All companies do this to reach wider audience.

But when it comes to EVE development/upcoming features/visions/work in progress/looking for community feedback on wild ideas for future, etc, etc, it HAS TO happen on EVE Forums - "You heard it here first!"

They can post 'simultaneously' on multiple platforms - ok fair enough. But using other channels BEFORE posting it on official EVE forums is just sh*t.

This may be a bit silly analogy, but how would you feel if a government minister posted on reddit,

"We are thinking about increasing tax by 200% and cutting down on social benefits to half. Your life may be affected but don't quote me on this - this is not an official press release or policy announcement anyway, it's only reddit, i.e. I can say whatever I want here and this is only reddit so it's unofficial hence I take absolutely no responsibility.

For official announcement of the new tax policy wait for the official government press release - by then we probably made our decisions based on feedbacks from this reddit thread & the policy would have been decided, so give us your feedbacks here on reddit, because people should be responsible and keep up to date with threads on Reddit right?

When the official press release is announced by the official spokes person for the government, you just lay down and take it as we give ya (because we already gave you chance to communicate with us on Reddit).


PS: BTW, as a rough idea, what you guys think about us implementing conscription policy? we thinking maybe 10 years of mandatory service in the armed forces for all boys and girls aged over 12. There are some other issues, such as legalising torture and building nuclear weapons, but we will open separate reddit thread for those

NOTE: Don't forget to follow us on Twitter too! We announce all the important life affecting national policy ideas on our Twitter account first! Also, don't bother tuning into government owned national broadcast TV channel for the news, because all the important bits will be shown on Youtube and Twitch first!"


erm... yeah.... :p

Bikinis everywhere.

I know, they don't want it to be that kind of game. That just means it's another sacred cow to slaughter.

One thing I'll note regarding Reddit in particular is that there seems to be more information specifically sought from other sources and shared there. And this in done mostly by non-CCP posters. Tweets, info gathered from presentations (eve vegas/fanfest/etc) and other social media musings seems to be captured, broken down and disseminated far father there than here if it hits here at all (and ironically when it does it's often a complaint about CCP posting it on reddit when it's actually a player who managed a screen grab).

This is of course an anecdotal observation, but given the idea that one needs to be in some way invested to post here, sometime the ones over there act as if things are the reverse.

Also they automate capture of dev blogs so the official forums doesn't even have that advantage.

Wait wat pay to win. Nah joking sounds good I was already thinking to stop paying eve but this well sounds good. lets hoop it is.

This is a great change IMO: it actually drove me to resubscribe and start training my skills up so that I'm ready when November hits.

Some specific feedback:
Character sheet: I know this is a WIP, but the sideways text is really hard to read and the grid arrangement doesn't make any sense (also, a significant increase in real-estate required). Overall this seems like a significant step back in UX, but hopefully the final design ends up looking a lot like the current character sheet, which is both nice to look at *and* highly functional. Everything should be listed vertically for compactness and to avoid a character sheet that bloats sideways to gigantic proportions as new skills/skill categories are added.

Multiple Alpha Clones: There absolutely needs to be a restriction of 1 Alpha clone per computer, just like how you can only run one trial per computer right now. If this is not done, there will be hordes of free alts run by existing vets, which I don't think is the intended consequence of this change. In addition, just like the existing trial restrictions, 1 Alpha clone should only be allowed to fly when there are no subbed accounts active (otherwise every existing vet will end up with a scout for free, which would take away from the incentive to sub another account to gain that powerful capability)

Gas Huffing: I can see why you chose to not allow Alpha clones to harvest gas (free gas farming by vets), but with the changes above new players will be able to experience the excitement of gas mining in a wormhole (because it honestly is exciting, active gameplay if you don't want to die) without causing hordes of multi-boxed Ventures to ravage wormholes. One Alpha clone active per computer won't negatively impact new players looking for some excitement, but it will prevent Alpha clone abuse.
Edit: Oh, and Alpha clones should only be able to fit T1 harvester modules

High-Sec Mechanics: I imagine that even with the above changes, high-sec podding will increase if Alpha clones are allowed to do so (why not? It's a free account anyway). In my opinion, alpha clones should not be allowed to switch into "red safeties" in high-sec, but this is something that I would be willing to see tested live instead of changed right now.

Thanks for reading, and great work on these initial changes!