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Adding my dislike of the new camera. What was the logic behind getting rid of the old one AND reducing functionality of the new one at the same time? I didn't mind skill injectors or NPC opportunities or jump fatigue but this is just ridiculous.

When, just....WHEN will you listen to your customers and at least attempt to produce improvements/changes to this game that the customers (the ones who pay your salary) actually want? Some like the new camera. Most do not. For the past few months we have had the option of using either. This option has not cost you a thing to include in the game. You actually had to spend worker hours to REMOVE the option to use either camera. The fact that you now disabled the old camera even though many customers wanted it left in means you have not a clue how to run a service based company. The old adage "give the customer what he wants" is as true today as it was when the first person realized his business would grow by following it. Notice EVE is not growing. Maybe you should have a little talk with the programmers and put the old camera back in. That way, this customer does not go into an epileptic fit while trying to decloak a ship using a fast frigate.

See, i WANT a new well programmed camera. I just want it to feel like the old camera, the camera that not a single person has ever complained about, then add as many OPTIONS on top of that as you want.

The way CCP has handled this smacks of amateurism.

I didn't agree with the Overview Icon changes. But was willing to wait for the customizable set as we, the paying customer base was promised. (still not in place, but neither is the return of Region Description flavor text! two years....)

I don't use the new map for my scanning. Since it's all pretty but severely lacking in functionability.

I only tolerated this new camera since the deal was several of it's short points would be addressed and changed before it becoming the only option.

That did not happen. It's still shiny form over useful function with vertigo hiding for a chance to strike again.

So CCP. You want new players to stay in the game, not give up. In the meantime you do just about everything you can think of to push the vets out with unneeded, unwanted changes for shiny change sake. Who gets to teach your R00kies then? How to play Eve, not just plunk down CC numbers for Plex, Aurum, to get at skill injectors? They'll have epic skills, to be sure.

With clue zero how to USE them.

For your sakes and ours, put the old camera back in, until you can iron out ALL the bugs, issues, lacks and complaints with this new shiny camera.

You knew this blowback was coming. That you did it anyways speaks volumes for how you view your 'bitter vets' customer base. You stick to your guns, I'll stick to mine. Game time only from me. I will not buy Plex, Aurum, and I will not use skill injectors on any of my accounts. After all you don't need all that extra income from little nobody me. You're practically minting cash between all the new players and the income glut from Valkyrie. Right....?

Somehow CCP managed to break the Skill Queue window for me in this release. I'm using my daily opportunities on a non-training alt and if I change its skill queue the game won't let me close the window, apply skill points, or just save the changes. I just get the "Please Buy Training" dialog, which when OK'd goes back to the unchanged skill queue. Before, if I pressed the "Apply" button, it would give me the dialog and save the changes, letting me do the other things. Now it doesn't.

As I've written elsewhere, I'm in the "Don't like the new camera" group. I'm slightly visually impaired, and the increased instability make it harder to use. At this point, given the new maps, camera, overlay, and scanners, I'm assuming that CCP only hires people with perfect corrected eyesight as UI devs. There is software to help with some accessibility issues, such as colour-blindness, but it is really hard to beat someone with the impairments actually using the UI.

Question on the data/relic analyser combination thing - when CCP are in the process of running module tiericide to reduce the number of modules in the game, why introduce new modules that only come from drops, instead of merely merging the standard T1/T2 modules together?

Hopefully some useful feedback here instead of rage, but it seems the New Map may have had some issues in this release.

Whenever I open the "Jumps in the last hour" setting it tells me [no label: UI/Map/ColorModeHandler/JumpsLastHour]

I don't get this message for "number of pilots docked" or "ships destroyed in last 24 hours" however, so I don't think it is a problem with my client.

Thanks for adding a pan ability in first person mode, I have been requesting this since it was introduced.

I'm glad to see you finally added the right click pan ability to the other modes, the zoom is not as far now, please extend it.

There are other issues with the new camera, but most of this thread is dealing with those...

+1 for adding a on/off toggle for pressing 'c' to track.

+1 for a slider for camera speed.

+1 for up/down speed to match left/right speed.

+1 for night vision and thermal modes.

+1 for hot pants.


Also, your patch notes did say we were going to get the upwell apparel, now they don't... however the eve updates for 118.5 does still suggest they will be included.

http://updates.eveonline.com/?_ga=1.13267447.17173401.1463057466

the new camera is unintuitive, and horrible to use in general, please give me the old one back

after updating my client today, i just spent a good 10 min trying to get the new camera to work.... let me point out that im yet to work out how to zoom out slowly so i don't feel sick in my guts, and that the overall experience have been CRAP!

please give the option to use old camera as this one is just total BS. as it makes me feel quite ill from playing. its highly possible ill just quit as i play for fun, not play to get sick...