Missions & Complexes

I found recently that the Fleeting Compact Webifier consumes more than twice as much cap as the X5 Enduring Webifier. However it comes at the cost of higher CPU needs for the X5. (The other stats are the same and the X5 is normally even cheaper.)

In your fitting you cannot simply replace the Fleeting Compact by the X5 because available CPU won't be enough. However, if you drop the Nos and replace the active hardener by an energized passive plate you have enough CPU and the setting is cap stable (assuming maxed skills and no implants), like so for example:

[Vengeance, cap-stable vs. Dramiel]
Centii A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Ballistic Control System II
Coreli B-Type Adaptive Nano Plating

X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier

Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
empty

I'm not sure if the reactive hardener gives seriously better resists. However, it comsumes a lot of cap on smaller ships and the resistance shift takes time (maybe too much time for the short fight with the Dramiel, I don't know). The adaptive membrane starts definitely with better resists than the reactive hardener and maybe the hardener becomes only better after a time when the fight is almost over, if at all. I suspect that the small and possibly non-existent benefit of the reactive hardener is not worth its cap hunger.

I'm running with only one (non-energized) plate (and a second BCU instead) and only a Coreli repairer (that repairs less per cycle but consumes less cap) and the tank is sufficient (but not comfortable). So, with the setup above the tank with two resistance plates and the Centii repper should be more than sufficient.

got a jag a year ago with such small regen and sometime it popped. would replace the nos with meta and install a b type thermal for sure.

he should fiddling around 35% shield in this fit

We can actually calculate the right resistance plates. According to the Burner characteristics the Angel Burner has 32.3%em 11.3%ki 56.4%ex damage distribution. If I assume that we fit one Coreli B-Type non-energized plating and one T2 Energized Plating (just to stay roughly in the same price range as the original fit) we have the following combinations with their respective effective HP (tested in EFT with that Burner damage profile):

Coreli B-Type Adaptive Nano Plating  + Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II -> 10028 EHP
Coreli B-Type Adaptive Nano Plating  + Energized EM Membrane II            -> 10113 EHP
Coreli B-Type Adaptive Nano Plating  + Energized Explosive Membrane II     ->  9527 EHP

Coreli B-Type EM Plating             + Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II ->  9700 EHP
Coreli B-Type EM Plating             + Energized EM Membrane II            ->  9068 EHP
Coreli B-Type EM Plating             + Energized Explosive Membrane II     ->  9480 EHP

Coreli B-Type Explosive Plating      + Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II ->  9220 EHP
Coreli B-Type Explosive Plating      + Energized EM Membrane II            ->  9563 EHP
Coreli B-Type Explosive Plating      + Energized Explosive Membrane II     ->  8245 EHP

So, we were both wrong. Even with two resistance modules choosing an adaptive module for at least one of them is a good decision. Adaptive + EM is the best combination. And Adaptive + Adaptive is second best, significantly better than EM + Explosive.

Regarding final resistances after shift the Reactive Armor Hardener isn't bad at all: The RAH has 60% total resistance to distribute and the final result should be (is it calculated that way? I'm not sure but seems plausible):

EM -> 0.323 * 60% = 19.38 %
TH -> 0.000 * 60% =  0.00 %
KI -> 0.113 * 60% =  6.78 %
EX -> 0.564 * 60% = 33.84 %

Unfortunately, one can setup the resistances of the RAH only in steps of 10% in EFT, so I tried 20/0/10/30 and 20/0/0/40 (the truth is somewhere in between):

Coreli B-Type Adaptive Nano Plating  + Reactive Armor Hardener (20/ 0/10/30) -> 10073 EHP
Coreli B-Type Adaptive Nano Plating  + Reactive Armor Hardener (20/ 0/ 0/40) -> 10281 EHP

In other words: What looked so wrong at a first glance (Adaptive + RAH) gives theoretically the best resistances. However, KO criterion for the RAH is in my opinion that it takes time to reach that optimal resistance distribution. It starts with only:

Coreli B-Type Adaptive Nano Plating  + Reactive Armor Hardener (15/15/15/15) -> 9471 EHP

And the RAH turns the cap stable setup into a setup that has an empty capacitor after 1m13s (with small Nos after 4m52s, but does the Nos constantly drain cap from the Burner?)

With only one resistance mod Adaptive is the best choice:

Coreli B-Type Adaptive Nano Plating  -> 8499 EHP
Coreli B-Type EM Plating             -> 8105 EHP
Coreli B-Type Explosive Plating      -> 7711 EHP

hmm maybe i test it out on sisi again

Is a MWD needed for the Team Burner Garmur setup? Or is an AB sufficient to keep range?

I'm considering this fit because it is cheap and has 3 BCUs but CPU won't be enough to fit a MWD:

[Garmur, Team Burner]
Ballistic Control System II
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System

1MN Afterburner II
Phased Scoped Target Painter
Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer, Missile Range Script
Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer, Missile Range Script

Polarized Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Polarized Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Polarized Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Can run with 1402 m/s, cap stable. MWD would be cap stable as well but of course would increase sig radius from 32m to 176m (with a Quad LiF, otherwise even more). The lower sig radius might at least be a small safety buffer against occasional hits (especially from the Jag).

But: Is it fast enough?

change it this way.

[Garmur, Team Burner]
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Target Painter II
Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer, Missile Range Script
Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer, Missile Range Script

Polarized Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Polarized Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Polarized Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I

the jag speeds up to ~ 1100 ms. so with a deadspace ab you should be save, but with a mwd you are faster in range and at the wreck.

this bill has way less perfomance as a similar pricetagged garmur and is only usefull with kinetic.

what did you use?

Did they change Ashimmu burner over DT?

https://zkillboard.com/kill/54980321/
Died in this yesterday, was my fault - didnt overheat launchers and shield compensation skills were 0. Left ashimmu only with 5% structure. Bought a same new one gila and killed him.

Now with all compensations 4...I died in 40 seconds!
https://zkillboard.com/kill/54988235/

Killed only 1 sentinel.

Did they increase DPS overnight or what? I nearly broke my notebook in half when my shield jumped from 50% to 0% in like no time. Damn CCP!


edit:

bought a new one. Warped in, burner+team @ 5km. Literally shield didnt even go lower than 90%.
What the hell is wrong with these burners?