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[GalFed] Villore Assembly: Resolution on Jin Mei Civil War

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Morgan Wulver
SAYR Reserve Guard
SAYR Galactic
#21 - 2016-05-01 06:31:07 UTC
If the Federation wants to waste untold sums for the fools errand of trying to bring stability to a culture fundamentally at odds with their own libertine society, then by all means go on ahead. Every basket of bread handed out to a teenage fighter is one fraction of a Megathron that the State will never be forced to deal with.

I for one hope the Villore Accords luck in developing future inconsequential policy to keep the Federation thoroughly distracted.

Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!

Alain Colcer
Nadire Security Consultants
Federation Peacekeepers
#22 - 2016-05-01 14:25:59 UTC
On behalf of Agiolet Security & Logistics we give our public support to the Villore Assembly resolution.

And we offer our hauling services to deliver supplies and any materials to help the civlians planetside.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#23 - 2016-05-01 19:03:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Rinai Vero wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:


Rinai Vero wrote:
If you would merely cease your never ending vendettas over years old slights, people like me would be less motivated to drag up years old examples of your own misdeeds.

First, I don't fight any of your "vendettas", I fight against enemies of the State.
And second, care to name at least one my so called "misdeeds" instead of barking your bile, gallentean?


That's it, I'm through. This pilot is a known pirate, traitor and liar. Her words mean nothing, and yet she talks.

Vero, you are unintelligent and inadequate gallentean propagandist, who publically lies about Caldari Officers.

I have asked if you could back your words with bringing at least one misdeed that I have committed, and yet you just erupted with another set of baseless insults.

Now tell me, dear readers, how are you supposed to talk with gallenteans like this specimen? Trust me, when I am telling the only way to deal with them is to shoot at them, I mean it.

Peoples like Vero can't be reasoned with.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#24 - 2016-05-01 19:32:40 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:


I have asked if you could back your words with bringing at least one misdeed that I have committed, and yet you just erupted with another set of baseless insults.



Call me whatever you want, It will take more than deleting the galnet link from my statement in your quotation to make your crimes go away. Your claim that you were enforcing an arrest warrant on Pilot Gesakaarin is a ridiculous falsehood, as proven by the law enforcement response against your vessel by State Protectorate authorities.

You are no longer participating in the discussion of the topic at hand, and I have zero interest in hearing you lie again about your cowardly, traitorous, and illegal conduct. You are a known pirate, traitor, and liar and there is nothing more to be said until you make amends for your dishonor to the people you have betrayed and slandered.
Bong-cha Jones
Sanxing
#25 - 2016-05-01 19:35:44 UTC
Morgan Wulver wrote:
If the Federation wants to waste untold sums for the fools errand of trying to bring stability to a culture fundamentally at odds with their own libertine society, then by all means go on ahead. Every basket of bread handed out to a teenage fighter is one fraction of a Megathron that the State will never be forced to deal with.

I for one hope the Villore Accords luck in developing future inconsequential policy to keep the Federation thoroughly distracted.


Being at odds with the libertines is not the cause of our troubles, nor would aligning with such an ethos solve them. The nature of the conflict on Chandeille is complex, with the primary actors and motives often poorly identified and understood. But please keep in mind that while your people were being uplifted by the Gallente, mine were creating their first off-world colony. The current disorder is a passing thing, and I ask only that the Federation help us speed its passing, not restore order for us. An investigation, as called for in the resolution, would be beneficial to that aim, while respecting Jin Mei authority and power within Ysiette.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#26 - 2016-05-01 19:44:47 UTC
Alain Colcer wrote:
On behalf of Agiolet Security & Logistics we give our public support to the Villore Assembly resolution.

And we offer our hauling services to deliver supplies and any materials to help the civlians planetside.


Thank you for your support. I'd also like to encourage capsuleers to contact your elected representatives in the Senate and express your support for this measure. We can present a unified front to our leaders in the Federation urging them to take swift action.
Tristan Valentina
Moira.
#27 - 2016-05-01 22:15:10 UTC
Herding cats.
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#28 - 2016-05-02 02:25:01 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
Tristan Valentina wrote:
Herding cats.

I can understand your pessimism Ms. Valentina, especially considering the history of Capsuleer interactions.

But despite the possibility of being thought optimistic, that doesn’t mean we shouldn't try.

I am as contrary and pride-vain a person as exists, and yes I voted against this resolution.

But still… have committed myself to supporting the decisions of the Assembly as a whole, in spirit and in deed, despite my disagreement on verbiage.

So let’s just sheath our op-positional natures for a bit shall we, and see what good we can promote.
Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
#29 - 2016-05-02 04:44:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Korsavius
It is with honor and privilege that I-RED has been allowed to observe and participate in the Villore Assembly. Although one can easily claim that a State-loyal entity has no business being a part of Gallentean affairs, we must do our part to contribute to this Assembly in order to promote a better understanding and atmosphere of cooperation between our peoples. The Practicals are too busy tending to their own personal economic growth at the expense of the lives of State citizens. The Patriots are too busy fighting a war that does not need to be fought, and blindly pushing erroneous nationalistic ideals. Ishukone has led the way amongst State megacorporations towards a path of mutual benefit and peace with the Federation. So too shall I-RED amongst State-loyal capsuleers. For the State.

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#30 - 2016-05-02 06:24:10 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
Your claim that you were enforcing an arrest warrant on Pilot Gesakaarin is a ridiculous falsehood, as proven by the law enforcement response against your vessel by State Protectorate authorities.

I wasn't enforcing arrest warrant, you pityful lying gallentean, I was fighting traitors openly.

Rinai Vero wrote:

You are no longer participating in the discussion of the topic at hand, and I have zero interest in hearing you lie again about your cowardly, traitorous, and illegal conduct.

It's you little lying gallentean swine, who started lying about Caldari officer there, and you will bear consequences for your public lies!

Rinai Vero wrote:
You are a known pirate, traitor, and liar and there is nothing more to be said until you make amends for your dishonor to the people you have betrayed and slandered.

Which is all lie, and doesn't matter how many times your repeat your fruitless trolling, gallente, your words won't become truth.

You may lie about us, but if you fail to understand our words and if you disregard facts, you will be met with barrage of our guns, you will meet Caldari batteries facing your running coward forces, tearing apart your hulls and filthy bodies.

You can't be talked with, you can't be reasoned with. We will do the whole cluster service in taking peoples like you down.

With fire and steel!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#31 - 2016-05-02 08:25:05 UTC
*Glances briefly at the Diana Kim message, then quickly scrolls down, ignoring it*

It is important to note that pilots are still welcome to become Delegates and Envoys in the Villore Assembly. If you feel that certain issues were not properly addressed in the resolution, then please participate in the process so our next resolution can be enhanced by your contribution. Just evemail Rinai Vero for more information.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#32 - 2016-05-02 16:02:13 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:
Your claim that you were enforcing an arrest warrant on Pilot Gesakaarin is a ridiculous falsehood, as proven by the law enforcement response against your vessel by State Protectorate authorities.

I wasn't enforcing arrest warrant, you pityful lying gallentean, I was fighting traitors openly.


Oh really?

Diana Kim wrote:
These bastards resisted arrest and got away. That's all.


So, either you're lying now or you were lying then. Either way, you're a liar. Remember, everyone: this pilot is a known pirate, traitor and liar.

By the way, that right there is how you provide proof of an accusation. Something you have yet to do when you accuse me.

Diana Kim wrote:

You can't be talked with, you can't be reasoned with.


Finally, something we both agree on. If you would be so kind as to not speak or attempt to reason further in our presence, that would be grand.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#33 - 2016-05-02 16:07:00 UTC
Korsavius wrote:
It is with honor and privilege that I-RED has been allowed to observe and participate in the Villore Assembly.


Your participation was to the mutual benefit of both of our peoples. Although you left the discussion of internal Federation politics to the Delegates, your comments and advice on the subject of providing humanitarian aid were well thought out and most helpful.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#34 - 2016-05-02 18:00:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Claudia Osyn
Rinai Vero wrote:

Wait. Did I read that right? She undocked a heavy against two T1 frigates and illegally engaged ON STATION!?!? God damn, my sides...

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Rook Moray
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2016-05-02 18:00:53 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
Rook Moray wrote:
I agree the civil war needs to stop.

But should the Federation really step in? If so, how? Militarily?

Intaki is a good example of what the Federation should not do.



I would recommend you read the resolution more carefully.

Rinai Vero wrote:
2. Requests that the Gallente Federation establish an independent commission to investigate the civil war and identify those Sang Do whose actions have been contrary to the laws of the Jin-Mei and the Federation,

3. Stresses that this commission must not take longer than 6 months in undertaking this investigation,


First, we must have a better understanding of the situation. A thorough independent investigation will reveal the facts and shed light on which local actors are at fault. Once this is known, the Federal government can then decide how best to proceed.



This all sounds good on a data pad. But you know the government isn't just gonna go there with flowers and hold everyone's hand and sing songs. The Feds would have to pick a side that's willing to play within the Federation structure, back them and then eradicate the opposition. That's the definition of "how to best proceed."

I do think they need to get all the facts though. There's too much going on in that system that's murky.

“When you want to know how things really work, study them when they're coming apart.” -Guristas Proverb.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#36 - 2016-05-02 18:19:54 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:

Wait. Did I read that right? She undocked a heavy against two T1 frigates and illegally engaged ON STATION!?!? God damn, my sides...

Wait..... We're the savage Terrorists? Atleast we don't shoot our own! Aside from that one guy the other day, but Tyrel Toov can attest to the fact he attacked one of us (me) first and even admitted to it in the militia channel as being accidental and to have fired first.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#37 - 2016-05-02 18:24:00 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:

Wait. Did I read that right? She undocked a heavy against two T1 frigates and illegally engaged ON STATION!?!? God damn, my sides...

Wait..... We're the savage Terrorists? Atleast we don't shoot our own! Aside from that one guy the other day, but Tyrel Toov can attest to the fact he attacked one of us (me) first and even admitted to it in the militia channel as being accidental and to have fired first.

He got rekt, but at least he didn't do it on the undock....

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#38 - 2016-05-02 18:28:25 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:

Wait. Did I read that right? She undocked a heavy against two T1 frigates and illegally engaged ON STATION!?!? God damn, my sides...

Wait..... We're the savage Terrorists? Atleast we don't shoot our own! Aside from that one guy the other day, but Tyrel Toov can attest to the fact he attacked one of us (me) first and even admitted to it in the militia channel as being accidental and to have fired first.

He got rekt, but at least he didn't do it on the undock....

He didn't really have a choice in the matter, I don't get slingshotted away that easily and you sure had a hold on him if he did..... Must be a TLF thing, you know..... Actually maintaining tackle....
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#39 - 2016-05-02 18:40:42 UTC
Guys, I know it is partly my fault for providing the link... but this topic really isn't about a certain person's history. Its just a thing to keep in mind whenever the insults start flying your direction. People in glass escape pods, ect.

I would be very interested to see your thoughts on the matter of the Resolution, though.

Rook Moray wrote:


This all sounds good on a data pad. But you know the government isn't just gonna go there with flowers and hold everyone's hand and sing songs. The Feds would have to pick a side that's willing to play within the Federation structure, back them and then eradicate the opposition. That's the definition of "how to best proceed."

I do think they need to get all the facts though. There's too much going on in that system that's murky.



I think your assessment is something for us to be cautious about, but it is hardly the only possible outcome. Or the most likely. The need to "eradicate" opposition assumes that the opposition is irrational and incapable of negotiating. I hardly think that is the case, even with the most intransigent of our Jin Mei neighbors.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#40 - 2016-05-02 19:12:20 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:

Wait. Did I read that right? She undocked a heavy against two T1 frigates and illegally engaged ON STATION!?!? God damn, my sides...

Wait..... We're the savage Terrorists? Atleast we don't shoot our own! Aside from that one guy the other day, but Tyrel Toov can attest to the fact he attacked one of us (me) first and even admitted to it in the militia channel as being accidental and to have fired first.

He got rekt, but at least he didn't do it on the undock....

He didn't really have a choice in the matter, I don't get slingshotted away that easily and you sure had a hold on him if he did..... Must be a TLF thing, you know..... Actually maintaining tackle....

Well, the warpstab doctrines the Amarr Militia run give us plenty of practice.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.