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Yeah so Im going to add my voice into the fray and state that the 400 stront per 40 fuel blocks is ridiculous and not thought through. I feel many people have accurately made the point of the amount of m^3 needed for a 20000 block run would be crazy plus you just don't get enough through mining at the moment to enable that change. And then there is the impact on manufacturing itself due to the actual cost of the block (if bought, due to the pain to mine in the amounts suggested). You all really need to take a step back and rethink your current position on fuel blocks.

This is very disappointing. The whole argument was that Null sec had to invest more into their outposts so should get more in return. Now you are asking Higsec to invest just as much, yet get less.
In addition the reprocessing difference actually does not promote local industry, but an import industry, since it means Null can afford to pay more for the same piece of ore than someone in highsec can, meaning they don't bother to mine locally.
Given the investment in all areas of space is now the same, and yes highsec people don't have to defend against caps but they also don't have caps to defend their structures either so that element balances out, the reprocessing in a Citadel should also be made equal. If Null needs something it should be an advantage in raw material production, not a magic advantage that makes the same piece of ore worth more minerals in different areas of space.

The fuel block use is also disappointing since we were told it was going to be when the services were actually used, which would therefore have made it easy to assign a tax to individual jobs, since you could tax them based on how many fuel blocks their particular job used, rather than a constant trickle of fuel blocks that you then have to work out how to account for dead time between uses as well.

Finally, what are the details on Fighters, What is the bandwidth, how many squadrons under the new system, what sort of DPS can we expect to get from said fighters, how many spares can be kept.
Currently the launcher DPS seems..... weak, and will be trivially easy to ignore for any reasonable attackers, therefore the Citadels won't contribute much to the overall firepower on the field, which seems very contrary to their design goals. So unless the Fighters are actually a huge majority of their DPS, Citadels are going to be outright walk overs.

This is incorrect -- there is a significant amount of mining going on in nullsec, and it's advantageous to mine in nullsec still -- shipping costs money, and locally-sourced goods are cheaper than imports. Plus, you can't get ABCs in highsec without paying a premium for it being shipped OUT of nullsec.

Need proof? I can provide it.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Deklein#adm
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Pure_Blind#adm

Any system with an ADM over 4.5, by necessity, has had people mining in it recently. (Sov index of 5 and military index of 5 = 4.5 ADM.) As of this post, 17 systems in Deklein and 11 systems in Pure Blind have at least some active miners. This does not include systems that could potentially have mining occurring instead of ratting.

Will you be able to tell what's fitted in the Citadel just by looking at it?

I am not only thinking in weapons (which you can do today with ships, so I assume this is a given), but also with ECM/Scrams/Disruptors/Hardeners which you can definitely do today by looking at the POS modules deployed and online around each POS.

CCP, one Last question

If the citadel concept is succesful and players adopt them quickly enough, would you consider creating a small sized citadel?.

As far as I know, alliance or corporation bounties are also tied to asset destruction. Ya know, Pos's.

Yeah, this Strontium business is definitely ill considered.

Going from 200 m3 per run to 1400 is absurd, not to mention the additional costs for pretty much everything that requires a POS in the interim. The new structure model is cool and all, but they're pretty much a novelty for the time being. POS are going to continue to be the industrial workhorse for quite a while yet.

Ran the numbers with a current loadout of stront and fuel blocks (given the 8.8-9 stront/block number you'd get from a 400/run use).

Currently, to build 175k blocks, i'll use roughly 350 Compressed Dark Glitter and 350 Compressed Glare Crust (plus, you know, Isotopes and PI stuff). To generate the stront needed for the same number of fuel blocks, i'll need 12,500 units of Krystallos (the most stront rich ice in eve). To put that in perspective, that's 15.6 TIMES the combined Dark Glitter and Glare Crust requirements, and i'm still missing heavy water.

Adding stront to a block is the worst idea, but the numbers are so far from being OK logistically, that it's ridiculous. How about 0.25 Stront a block. This will require 10 stront a load, and, while still require an adjustment in the ice purchased, brings the total logistical level from "Completely Unreasonable" to "Actually Practical"

I'd say that adding stront to the fuel blocks is making things unnecessary complex.

How about we keep stront separate and citadels (or their modules) simply consume some every hour, just like with fuel blocks?

That should allow for much better fine-tuning during the whole transition from POSes to the new generation of structures.

This would, of course, not fix the problems related to the extra volume others have pointed out, but would allow for much easier stront consumption adjustments (while keeping the whole fuel block part of the equation untouched).

Fuel consumption is not going to vary. The numbers you get are what the structure owner will pay to online the service module, then keep it running per hour. Customers or users will not be charged that amount.

Example:

You are the owner of a Keepstar. You install a Reprocessing Plant. It will cost you 360 fuel blocks to online, then 5 blocks per hour to maintain online. Any other player using that reprocessing service will not pay fuel blocks. What you will most likely do as an owner however is to set taxes to the customers to offset the fuel block cost and make a profit.