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Its the kind of 'neat and tidy' that stalin was looking for when he tried to redesign russia. Not sure history looks back on that as a smart move.

In achieving this 'neat and tidy' CCP will throw people months behind where they currently are now while offering the solution which can run from 600GBP(900USD+) per racial skill.

Ill show you THE neat and tidy way to introduce this new ship. This is legitimate since no new role is being added so there is no fair justification to add a new skill. All that needs to be done is rename each racial carrier skill to 'Fleet Auxiliary Support' or something of the like.

Racial Dreadnought + Tactical Reconfiguration
Racial Fleet Auxiliary Support + Carrier + Fighters
Racial Fleet Auxiliary Support + FAX + Triage

There becomes 2 ships in the class, this is not unique in EVE and follows the path of all other sub cap T1 ships. It also opens up the option to add different performing ships in the dreadnought class.

This option leaves people with the same capabilities that they currently have, does not require any free SP and does not put new bros any further behind the old guard.

An even neater option would have been to just make it so that the triage module removed the vast majority of the carriers drone bay. In this scenario no new ugly ship would be required at all once all the bonuses are shifted to the desired place.



So what you are saying is there is no point complaining, or talking about the alternatives? That is a horrible position to take. If people get mad about this change and just quietly quit without warning then how does that help the game?

Im not a spiteful person so i think the better option is to make it very clear why many of us are antagonized by this cash grab (even im tempted to just throw down 60bn isk to just get the skills i need but i wont on principle) and what the options are to recover from this. This happened in the past with Incarna. It may not happen now, but i hope CCPs cost / benefit analysis of throwing so many of its most loyal customers under the bus is well calculated.

Since the dreadnought is a far cheaper skill im not sure you have a valid point. To satisfy what you believe to be their design decision they could have easily edited either price. But as it stands, dreadnought has a quicker train and the skill costs 1/5th of the price.

The only design requirements satisfied by this change is tempting people to buy SP injectors.

Its hilarious that you brown shirt for them though. Or you are just expertly roleplaying a forum poster who is wrong on nearly every point they make.

If they stick to their guns here, Im going to need all my cap related SP reimbursed on both characters so that i can make decisions at a later date. Im currently on an Intel/mem remap so just starting a new level 14 per/will train is not an option. Ive done nothing but train per/will on my intel/mem remap anyway with the racial t3d, logi frig and cmdessy skills.

There should be remaps given when substantial new skills are released.

The important conversation is being had on reddit anyway, why did i even bother to hope that a dev might possibly show his or her face on this thread.

Uh, that would be called Ore Freighter, a skill which only does the Bowhead?
Seriously, at least try to know what you are whining about.

Funny how you made a mistake and acknowledged it. Unlike the two trolls in here who are factually or conceptually wrong on nearly everything they say but just ignore it like it didnt happen lol.

Dont forget about new skills for the T1 frigate and cruiser logi. Not only do they not fall into the regular combat cruiser role. they are dramatically different to their previous incarnation.

CCP must have forgot to give them new skills when they got their logistics role.

Given the silence in the current top reddit post, which has 90% approval from a nearly five hundred people last I checked...yeah don't hold your breath.

Here's the tl;dr of the impact:

Yeah, this one made me laugh though: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/44a906/patch_notes_patch_notes_for_february_2016_release/czopb28

Turns out it wasn't so much speculation as entirely accurate foretelling.

Its not the lack of free stuff most people are annoyed with, but the lack of accurate information so we can make an informed decision on the best route that annoys people.

I have no issue with people annoyed they don't know what the ship will end up being, I have issue with people asking to be granted skills to fly 4 new ship because they trained for another one before.

Literally noone wants new skills for free. People just want to be able to do what they have already trained for.

I can fly a combat carrier, i can fly a triage carrier. they could have introduced a new ship in the carrier line without creating a new skill since both roles are preexisting.

The fact that you have to misrepresent peoples objections as wanting free stuff really speaks volumes about your purpose here.

The fact that CCP introduced these ships in the way that they did also speaks volumes.

It doesnt matter how much misguided apologetics you throw at it, you are still nothing more than a troll. People complaining about legitimate issues on a forum is what forums are for. People complaining about people complaining is a little bit sad mate.