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Solecist Project
#1321 - 2015-12-30 15:21:55 UTC
Never played that.

WiS would be useless without combat elements. They're needed, to keep the weak in check.

Just imagine the hoardS of cowards chestbeating from the safety of their station.
Yeah we have that now already, but only with limited gameplay options.

And now imagine what happens when these bears ever undock...

The outcry would be marvellous!

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Hauler Joe
United Mining and Hauling Inc
The Initiative.
#1322 - 2015-12-30 15:35:15 UTC
Cahir Ceallach wrote:
Maybe WIS is back, in this year we have 10 expansion in the year :)



the expansion is call Star Citizen





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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#1323 - 2015-12-30 15:42:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Solecist Project wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Why brawls? WIS initially was planned as glorified lobby, with CQ, bars, shops and some kind of strategic table game and meeting room. At least all of that was in trailers and demos.

Avatar exploration demo was later. It was planned to make it dangerous, sites with open PvP.

And a girl pulling a gun.

See that EVE trailer... Forever? Future visions?
I don't even recall, but it was right at the end.

Yes, it was in station. But it was exception like this Raven with laser guns shooting a planet. I actually recall CCP Torfifrans explaining that these station environments would be without agression mechanics. And some time after that he wrote on the forums that Avatar exploration had been imagined as dangerous with pvp mechanics. But avatar exploration was different project.

On second thought, there was a really nice video about Amarr troopers storming instalation in space, this video with gate that is blowing up at the end. But it was also a visual piece of art, nothing really promising.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#1324 - 2015-12-30 15:53:13 UTC
Le Sigh.. 'Tis this thread again.

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MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#1325 - 2015-12-30 15:57:43 UTC
Hauler Joe wrote:
Cahir Ceallach wrote:
Maybe WIS is back, in this year we have 10 expansion in the year :)



the expansion is call Star Citizen






When they finally finish it, maybe.

It should be kept in mind that they've stated earlier their instancing cap will likely still be around 100 players, so I'd hardly say that game is a threat to EVE Online.

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Solecist Project
#1326 - 2015-12-30 16:20:15 UTC
MidnightWyvern wrote:
Hauler Joe wrote:
Cahir Ceallach wrote:
Maybe WIS is back, in this year we have 10 expansion in the year :)



the expansion is call Star Citizen






When they finally finish it, maybe.

It should be kept in mind that they've stated earlier their instancing cap will likely still be around 100 players, so I'd hardly say that game is a threat to EVE Online.

ONE HUNDRED! All at the same place! That's INSANE!
What a technological achievement!

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1327 - 2015-12-30 18:09:21 UTC
It totally sucks that only 100 people can show up and board each other's ships and have firefights on board.

Or we could be honest and say damn, that's pretty cool they can board each other's ships and have firefights.

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1328 - 2015-12-30 18:10:20 UTC
Valkyrie arenas only have what, 20 players max so does that mean valkyrie sucks too?

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Solecist Project
#1329 - 2015-12-30 18:30:47 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Valkyrie arenas only have what, 20 players max so does that mean valkyrie sucks too?

No, because the comparison is invalid. SC is a completely different type of game.

The point is that people here somehow believe SC is comparable to EVE, which it isn't really either.
It is in no way or form even close and only shares the fact that it's in ******* space.

I take the invalid comparison and make fun of it.


Thanks for ruining it, Rain. :P

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#1330 - 2015-12-30 18:33:29 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
Valkyrie arenas only have what, 20 players max so does that mean valkyrie sucks too?

No, because the comparison is invalid. SC is a completely different type of game.

The point is that people here somehow believe SC is comparable to EVE, which it isn't really either.
It is in no way or form even close and only shares the fact that it's in ******* space.

I take the invalid comparison and make fun of it.


Thanks for ruining it, Rain. :P


That signature though... Cool

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Solecist Project
#1331 - 2015-12-30 18:38:50 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
Valkyrie arenas only have what, 20 players max so does that mean valkyrie sucks too?

No, because the comparison is invalid. SC is a completely different type of game.

The point is that people here somehow believe SC is comparable to EVE, which it isn't really either.
It is in no way or form even close and only shares the fact that it's in ******* space.

I take the invalid comparison and make fun of it.


Thanks for ruining it, Rain. :P


That signature though... Cool

Cool

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Tristan Agion
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1332 - 2015-12-30 18:41:18 UTC
I've read only the first 25 pages of this thread... so excuse me if I repeat a suggestion already made.

But why not simply crowdfund WiS development?

Set a target of US$1M, or whatever would be enough to get something meaningful done, and see whether it flies on kickstarter.

WiS supporters could put their money where their mouth is. And those disinterested in WiS would not need to worry about it cannibalising other EVE development.
Solecist Project
#1333 - 2015-12-30 19:00:20 UTC
Tristan Agion wrote:
I've read only the first 25 pages of this thread... so excuse me if I repeat a suggestion already made.

But why not simply crowdfund WiS development?

Set a target of US$1M, or whatever would be enough to get something meaningful done, and see whether it flies on kickstarter.

WiS supporters could put their money where their mouth is. And those disinterested in WiS would not need to worry about it cannibalising other EVE development.

But but but they can't pay kickstarter with ISK...

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1334 - 2015-12-30 19:06:52 UTC
i wonder how well a crowdfunding campaign for a product a company has previously bungled and written off would go
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1335 - 2015-12-30 19:12:26 UTC
in seriousness i imagine there's a lack of capability and willingness on ccp's part. it's not just a matter of cash
Tristan Agion
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1336 - 2015-12-30 19:29:29 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
in seriousness i imagine there's a lack of capability and willingness on ccp's part. it's not just a matter of cash

If you have the cash, then you can hire the capability and willingness.

This stuff isn't exactly cutting edge nowadays, isn't it? In particular not if you start with non-combat, social interactions where you do not have to worry about millisecond timings, rag doll physics, etc. I have a hard time believing that CCP would struggle finding relevant talent to hire.

It seems to me that crowdfunding would largely take away the financial risk for CCP, and it would legitimise such development in view of the past - since obviously it then would be a development wanted by the all those EVE players chipping in.

And we could finally gauge just how many EVE players find this important enough to pay a significant amount of money for it. If such a kickstarter over-funds to several million dollars, then that's a clear sign. If it fails with just a few thousand dollars, then that is also a clear sign.
Solecist Project
#1337 - 2015-12-30 19:33:32 UTC
Ha! I know the perfect name for such a crowdfunded expansion!










.... wait for it ...















EVE ONLINE: Star Citizen.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#1338 - 2015-12-30 19:57:48 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
in seriousness i imagine there's a lack of capability and willingness on ccp's part. it's not just a matter of cash


Along with the fact that EVE is old and full of 'spaghetti code' and thus a really bad candidate for 'rigging stuff onto'.

That being said, I'd love to see a kickstarter for this. It would shut up the WiS fringe one way or another.

It won't happen, the kinds of people who want to see WiS (or other 'mass appeal' type things to 'bring in more people') are the kind of folks who think "well, that's CCPs job to give us stuff, not mine".
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#1339 - 2015-12-30 20:11:50 UTC
I belive that CCP might begin thinking of making EVE 2.0 and transfer all players assest to the New game... then apply WiS there.

As now, EVE is now a old game....which aint attracting new players in nearly same amount as before.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#1340 - 2015-12-30 20:27:28 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Just imagine the hoardS of cowards chestbeating from the safety of their station.
Seems like EVE as usual, to me.

At any given time in any area of space, you'll find thousands of cowards chestbeating from the safety of their station. The only difference is they're sitting just inside docking range instead of in the actual station. Even then, there are thousands more harassing in local that will never undock and engage in combat.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike WIS but what you said is not one of them.

Mr Epeen Cool