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[MERC] The Marmite Collective

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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#101 - 2015-12-24 05:13:15 UTC
sue Abbott wrote:
So just to ask you tora why is your guys camping jita undock, didnt you say they can't ???? Just saying as its rule not to... RollRoll


theres plenty of room for all you mercbears on the jita undock, just plenty.

its like one of those sleep number beds, each side can adjust to each setting.

how is the view there today, i imagine lots of those snowballs & fireworks being used.

@JerryTPepridge

Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2015-12-24 07:24:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Fybs
sue Abbott wrote:
So just to ask you tora why is your guys camping jita undock, didnt you say they can't ???? Just saying as its rule not to... RollRoll


Sue you clearly don't know the rules. as you can see from our top recent systems and locations the changes here are real Smile

https://zkillboard.com/alliance/1680888152/ Jita is not even top 5 and the 4-4 undock is not there at all Blink

This is a proud day for me Pirate

let's have a look at yours while we are here shall we?

https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99005881/

Oh god it's riddled with 4-4 undock. at this time of writing you have 517 kills in jita.
and only 17 times out of 517 you have left the undock.

You may want to get a doctor to look at that. it's been known to cause heavy loses, lots of drama, lazyness and poor fittings,

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Chandelin
Abandoned Farm
#103 - 2015-12-24 08:58:26 UTC
Fybs wrote:
sue Abbott wrote:
So just to ask you tora why is your guys camping jita undock, didnt you say they can't ???? Just saying as its rule not to... RollRoll


Sue you clearly don't know the rules. as you can see from our top recent systems and locations the changes here are real Smile

https://zkillboard.com/alliance/1680888152/ Jita is not even top 5 and the 4-4 undock is not there at all Blink

This is a proud day for me Pirate

let's have a look at yours while we are here shall we?

https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99005881/

Oh god it's riddled with 4-4 undock. at this time of writing you have 517 kills in jita.
and only 17 times out of 517 you have left the undock.

You may want to get a doctor to look at that. it's been known to cause heavy loses, lots of drama, lazyness and poor fittings,


I find it hilarious (not pointing at any specific alliance) that you cant even alpha a badger with a tornado, vindie and loki :)
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#104 - 2015-12-24 09:35:13 UTC
The last part of the restructuring has almost been done. We're waiting for a group of skilled players to join us at the end of December and we have our eyes on a couple of skilled pvp players who we would like to have in Marmites (maybe even Saeger's old corp mates). The killboard looks good (less kills, but better and expensive ones and the trade hubs kills keep dropping down), the players are happy, the doctrines have been discussed and changed where needed and the good fights keep coming.

I see a good 2016 for Marmites and a less good 2016 for our "new" target. Twisted

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#105 - 2015-12-24 12:04:22 UTC
Imitation is the highest form of flattery

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#106 - 2015-12-24 12:47:42 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Imitation is the highest form of flattery
At least he is not obsessed with Marmites. Roll

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2015-12-24 13:07:06 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Imitation is the highest form of flattery


Indeed it is.

Not the first time we have seen this and I'm sure not the last.

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#108 - 2015-12-24 13:15:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Noragen Neirfallas
Actually before Tora tells us all to play nice I do disagree with Fybs Phobos

Here is my old one for chasing things down

[Phobos, Fast Phobos]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Inertial Stabilizers II

50MN Microwarpdrive II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Warp Disruption Field Generator II, Focused Warp Disruption Script

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Edit
Now the reasoning is sound but it depends on whether you are going for niche role or trying to survive in a fight
It's slightly less tank yet warps 1.2 au quicker and aligns and enters warp about 1.5 seconds quicker

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#109 - 2015-12-24 13:16:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Marmite is joining the Imperium. The new alliance logo has been made by the Goon artists.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2015-12-24 13:21:09 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Actually before Tora tells us all to play nice I do disagree with Fybs Phobos

Here is my old one for chasing things down

[Phobos, Fast Phobos]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Inertial Stabilizers II

50MN Microwarpdrive II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Warp Disruption Field Generator II, Focused Warp Disruption Script

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Edit
Now the reasoning is sound but it depends on whether you are going for niche role or trying to survive in a fight
It's slightly less tank yet warps 1.2 au quicker and aligns and enters warp about 1.5 seconds quicker


Constructive criticism.

Thank you noragen

But your giving the game away.

you can see why the fit is like it is.

Sue clearly can not.

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#111 - 2015-12-24 13:22:50 UTC
Fybs wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Actually before Tora tells us all to play nice I do disagree with Fybs Phobos

Here is my old one for chasing things down

[Phobos, Fast Phobos]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Inertial Stabilizers II

50MN Microwarpdrive II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Warp Disruption Field Generator II, Focused Warp Disruption Script

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Edit
Now the reasoning is sound but it depends on whether you are going for niche role or trying to survive in a fight
It's slightly less tank yet warps 1.2 au quicker and aligns and enters warp about 1.5 seconds quicker


Constructive criticism.

Thank you noragen

But your giving the game away.

you can see why the fit is like it is.

Sue clearly can not.

Sorry I run a newbroish corp I have gotten used to explaining game mechanics actual mercs would already know Twisted

#shotsfired

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Valkin Mordirc
#112 - 2015-12-24 15:23:58 UTC
I do not understand the hate toward Fybs' Phobos. Like if you hate the idea of the fit sure then hate all you want, but the role the ship is meant to fulfill is very understandable. It's a Fast warping chase ship that can infty-point. A very good ship for an alliance like Marmite as no ends of people will WCS the **** out there ships. And nothing is more frustrating than a Mega getting away just because all his lows are stabbed to high hell.

Although still have the extra scrambler doesn't make any sorta sense since the new update, but since that literally JUST happened it's forgivable. And it could be dropped for another web for keep people from crashing gates or another sebo for catching smaller ****,

Even if you think the Proteus is better, it's not really. The proteus gets around a 5au warp speed, but even with a 3 point scram, the Phobos still gets around 30km scram with the infinity point. That and if go for magstabs on the Proteus you will not enter warp as fast the phobos will. If both the Phobos and the Proteus are rigged for tank, then the Phobos enters warp a second faster than the Proteus will, The phobos is little bit faster with the MWD as well. Which mean regional gates are less of a pain when you have to burn to point.


And in all honesty as long as your Phobos warps faster than 3.3au/s you will always out warp your target on long warps and land about the same time on short jumps as long as it's cruiser size, and if your going for something smaller you obviously want proper fast tackle like a Crow. DPS isn't really an issue with either ship since they are meant for a fleet.

Really the tank on the proteus is it's only benefit when you down to tacks.
#DeleteTheWeak
Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2015-12-24 15:32:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Fybs
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
I do not understand the hate toward Fybs' Phobos. Like if you hate the idea of the fit sure then hate all you want, but the role the ship is meant to fulfill is very understandable. It's a Fast warping chase ship that can infty-point. A very good ship for an alliance like Marmite as no ends of people will WCS the **** out there ships. And nothing is more frustrating than a Mega getting away just because all his lows are stabbed to high hell.

Although still have the extra scrambler doesn't make any sorta sense since the new update, but since that literally JUST happened it's forgivable. And it could be dropped for another web for keep people from crashing gates or another sebo for catching smaller ****,

Even if you think the Proteus is better, it's not really. The proteus gets around a 5au warp speed, but even with a 3 point scram, the Phobos still gets around 30km scram with the infinity point. That and if go for magstabs on the Proteus you will not enter warp as fast the phobos will. If both the Phobos and the Proteus are rigged for tank, then the Phobos enters warp a second faster than the Proteus will, The phobos is little bit faster with the MWD as well. Which mean regional gates are less of a pain when you have to burn to point.


And in all honesty as long as your Phobos warps faster than 3.3au/s you will always out warp your target on long warps and land about the same time on short jumps as long as it's cruiser size, and if your going for something smaller you obviously want proper fast tackle like a Crow. DPS isn't really an issue with either ship since they are meant for a fleet.

Really the tank on the proteus is it's only benefit when you down to tacks.


Spot on.

But the 2nd scram is there because you can't receive reps with the infinite point engaged.

It's also chosen over a long point to stop MJD's.

with my mid-grade accendancy implants I warp at 5.2 AU.

Iv lost count the amount of times iv overtaken a faction BS in warp that is max stabbed.

most of the time they don't even see there is a HIC chasing them until it's too late.

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Valkin Mordirc
#114 - 2015-12-24 15:36:13 UTC
Ah, Forgot about the logi side of the point. Right on. =P
#DeleteTheWeak
Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#115 - 2015-12-24 15:39:49 UTC
The sad thing is Sue and most of what squad thought I had overdrives in the low slots.

The fact they can't explain why the fit is fail shows they must have realised there mistake and now feel abit silly.

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#116 - 2015-12-24 16:22:41 UTC
No you're wrong fybs. I glanced at your loss because it didn't interest me much. I thought they were overdrives, not What Squad. You overrate your importance to us.

HYM8 from MYM8 2.0, the real deal.

Sir smokesabunch for csm.

Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.

Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#117 - 2015-12-24 18:06:18 UTC
Awww page 12 already Lol

If only we could cash in on that? Oh no, wait, wait, we are Blink

Also overtake/catch up HIC? Broadsword, best align time out of the box and not slowed down by a plate.
Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2015-12-25 15:51:40 UTC
I would like to take a moment and wish everyone and there family's here in C&P a Merry Christmas.

The banter and rivaly here is why I love to play eve.

but rest assured if i was to meet any of you in person I'm sure we would have a good laugh and a drink.

Big smile

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Mag's
Azn Empire
#119 - 2015-12-25 16:44:28 UTC
HoleySheet1 wrote:
I glanced at your loss because it didn't interest me much.
To show your lack of interest, you rant about them and look at their KB a lot?

That's a nice poker bluff you're giving us all. Oh and that war you didn't want anyway, let's not forget that. Lol

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Mortlake
Republic Military School
#120 - 2015-12-25 17:14:21 UTC
Fybs wrote:
I would like to take a moment and wish everyone and there family's here in C&P a Merry Christmas.

The banter and rivaly here is why I love to play eve.

but rest assured if i was to meet any of you in person I'm sure we would have a good laugh and a drink.

Big smile


If I were to meet any of you in person, I'd call the police.

Having said that I'll probably be at Evesterdam next year, so be gentle with me. I'll probably be a terrible flirt and make an arse of myself.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...