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Dev blog: Dirt & Killmarks - Dirt and Destruction in New Eden

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Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#61 - 2015-12-02 06:03:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Rowells
Mojo JimBoB wrote:
Really? Who Cares about Dirty ships or killmarks... why don't you use the time fixing actual game problems... War Shedding comes to mind, as It is annoying as hell that a war is declared, all toons in decced corp drop corp and create a new one and continue on, no consequenses but the aggressing corp is out the WarDec isk...

You might as well ask CCP Janitor Man to start working on Corp and Alliance roles.

Roll

Would it be possible to have small (or larg)e streaks of biomatter (preferably blood) accumulate as well? I'm certain I've splattered enough pods with the hull to see some sort of color change
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#62 - 2015-12-02 06:11:34 UTC
Rock Oyok wrote:
Devblog wrote:
When we sought inspiration, two things stood out immediately: age and accomplishment.

Age - this was fairly simple to conceptualize. While hulls don’t sag or fatten over the year, they should present visual marks of longevity. They accumulate dust, dirt, and detritus—a general accretion of filth earned by nothing more than the simple process of existing. [...] The clock starts for any given ship when a capsuleer first makes that ship active.


Please reconsider. Time spent in a hangar should not count towards ship age. Let them gather dirt only when (if) they are actually out there and in use.

Also I second requests for completely opting out of both possibilities - the feature per se, and the "clean ship" button - some players would absolutely hate to accidentally clean their rust buckets, while others would be forced to "clean ship" at every pit stop...

Except for minmatar stations. Those should make it accumulate faster.
Hellcab
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2015-12-02 12:47:29 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbaPrlGTpII

I feel a disturbance in any upcoming Logi-Muster... but who caresPirate
Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
#64 - 2015-12-02 17:53:25 UTC
With regards to dirt, it seems to me that player behavior will be binary, ie.: (a) always clean the ships, or (b) never clean the ships. I don't think there will be many players who (c) sometimes clean the ships.

For players who always clean the ships, a "clean ship" button which needs to be repeatedly used when switching ships and before undocking is nothing more than a hassle. For players who never clean the ships, a "clean ship" button is nothing more than additional useless clutter on the station UI panel.

So, it seems to make more sense to put the "clean ship" button in the ESC Display & Graphics window, rather than on the station UI panel.

Just my two cents....
Pic'n dor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2015-12-03 18:22:18 UTC
Another question :

What are the effects on dust level or killmarks when trading or contracting assembled ships ?

COUCOU TOUCHE TOUCHE

Junky Maker
Troll Patrol
#66 - 2015-12-06 10:11:53 UTC
good stuff CCP.

But do i need to use some specific graphic setup or will dust and kills show regardless of graphic settings ?

cheers
CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#67 - 2015-12-09 10:19:13 UTC
Pic'n dor wrote:
Another question :

What are the effects on dust level or killmarks when trading or contracting assembled ships ?


The assembled ship will retain its dust level and kill marks across trading or contracting. Repackaging, however, will reset those.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins

Caroline Grace
Retrostellar Boulevard
#68 - 2015-12-09 17:25:44 UTC
Proteus doesn't have the new V5++ shaders but it shows the armor damage as any other spaceship, how is that possibru? Big smile
Good job on those by the way, really amazing.

I'm Caroline Grace, and this is my favorite musical on the Citadel.

Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#69 - 2015-12-13 23:19:10 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Pic'n dor wrote:
Another question :

What are the effects on dust level or killmarks when trading or contracting assembled ships ?


The assembled ship will retain its dust level and kill marks across trading or contracting. Repackaging, however, will reset those.

That seems a little strange. I thought these marks of wear and tear and kill marks were to show a pilots activity and fighting prowess. Instead one pilot can dirty up and fill a ship with killmarks and then just trade it to the next guy who gets to show off - someone else's effort.

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.

nevilb kram
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2015-12-16 18:15:51 UTC
Can someone post a pick of where the kill mark is on the ferox? Also kill marks are only for ships, frig class and above only correct?
Yadaryon Vondawn
Vicanthya
#71 - 2015-12-16 20:33:56 UTC
So it has been a week since the patch, I have however not spotted any dirt on any on my ships. Has anyone seen dirt on their ships?

CCP: What is the timeframe for dirt to appear?

Thanks in advance
Bianca Niam
Doomheim
#72 - 2015-12-16 23:50:19 UTC
I looked for damn near 20 mins for a killmark - Then I saw this tiny eetsy beetsy mark on the side of my ship Twisted Fun feature, but imho, completely useless.
Bianca Niam
Doomheim
#73 - 2015-12-16 23:52:33 UTC
Yadaryon Vondawn wrote:
So it has been a week since the patch, I have however not spotted any dirt on any on my ships. Has anyone seen dirt on their ships?

CCP: What is the timeframe for dirt to appear?

Thanks in advance

My skiff will be covered in dirt in like 1 or 2 days, my gila seems to be immune, so is my orthrus. So some ships are missing the dirt wrapper.
nevilb kram
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#74 - 2015-12-17 04:19:06 UTC
Bianca Niam wrote:
tiny eetsy beetsy mark


LMAO nice words took them right out of my mouth. I finally found them on the ferox yea no one will ever see them they are sooo small whats the point in that?? Also if ur ship gets super dirty but u like the clean look can u get it washed???
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#75 - 2015-12-17 07:48:41 UTC
Personally I like the battle worn damaged look of a ship that has been in combat. Just a shame you can't keep it without compromising the integrity of your ship.

As for dirty ships, I think it must only be industrial ships that get dirty, nothing I fly regularly is showing signs of dirt except the procurer used for pvp roams. (it really isn't noticeable unless I zoom the ship as large as you can, then I had to have another procurer next to it to see the difference)

On the procurer, a few of the guys in fleet got kills (final blows) but have no kill marks. Do they appear in different places or just not work sometimes?

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.

Lisa Sophie d'Elancourt
Empusa.
#76 - 2015-12-18 08:10:06 UTC
Killmarks are poorly visible in captain's quarters mode. Could be a bit bigger and much brighter.
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2015-12-18 15:37:37 UTC
Ummmm..... Can we get some more dust please? I fly Minmatar and I really can't tell the difference. Either that, or the baseline hulls ought to be a little cleaner to begin with. Thanks.
Splatacus
Cordata Enterprises
#78 - 2015-12-29 14:38:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Splatacus
I like the idea of killmarks - but I was wondering where they are on my Tengu. I dont kill much and I'd like to see the very few kills I have on this boat!

Edit. Ignore me, I think I found them
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#79 - 2016-01-05 22:17:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Aineko Macx wrote:
Do the killmarks accumulate per ship, ship type or character? I.e. my ship gets blown up and I buy a new one, will it have the same amount of marks?



Per ship.

repackage a ship, or have it blown up, and the killmarks are gone.



That's too bad. It just rewards the risk adverse.

It would be much better if every rifter I had fitted up, would have all the killmarks I had from flying that ship hull. It would also be nice if you could then fill a ship with killmarks as a goal.

IMO this would be much more meaningful.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

MiSANTHR0PE
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#80 - 2016-01-06 17:30:54 UTC
The dirt seems a little buggy

I been checking my ships every few days to see if they look any different, and none of them have changed in the slightest, then I logged in last night and the majority of my ships are covered in filth! (Dragoon and Enyo still clean even though they are same age as the dirty ships)

Which seemed odd, as it wasn't gradual at all, it just happened over night. Then I just logged in now (15 or so hours later) and all my ships look like new again ( I didn't clean then or repackage them)

http://imgur.com/a/DvJJr