Market Discussions

Well yes, that is the whole point really.
I will calculate the percentages at which they raised to compare with the previous percentages.
There are also other factors which can be included as time evolves because more factors are added.
It is not generally bad, in fact, it can also increase the rate at which PLEx will raise.
That is, the rate which is connected with the actual PLEx value increase, or upward trend changes.

The Eve Economy report said we were deflationary, very this past year. Plex is detached from normal market forces for obvious reasons.

As the player number declines there is less competition for asset generation between players, which means more people can make more isk. The generalization is that the longer you have played the more likely you are to be "invested" in this game. These "invested" players tend to be the ones who plex their account, or to an extreme plex their way to fanfest.

As the player number declines so theoretically does the new player influx. New players tended to be the ones who would buy plex for isk injection early in their careers. There is now less of them and they were a source of plex supply for the in game market.

The capital and sov changes have discouraged many players from buying, building or holding super capitals and other large investment items. These players before might have been a source of plex as they would need massive isk injections to complete their purchase/build.

The player number declining puts a lot of players into deflation. Common wisdom is if you have tons of liquid isk, convert it to plex before you unsub so when you come back you will have both plex and a "hedge" against possible inflation (Eve has almost never had inflation, but plex has always inflated, so you get double bonus doing this).

So basically, in a general way, those are the reasons.

Less players can mean less demand, but that is only true to a certain certainty ratio.
One reason for the certainty ratio related to the player number is, that number of players can increase.
If the player number increase, the PLEx demand may increase.

Some of the points raised about why there are less players , how it's harder for them, why new players find it harder, are good.
I would like to go over them as a walkthrough.
However, I rather start a new thread about PLEx Prices speculation and profit ratio including the percent of change.
This thread may better be left to discuss the PLEx Prices, rather than include more PLEx profit percentages and their related time frames (ROI, etc).

Which report would that be?

The latest thing I could find from CCP was this report,

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/mineral-trade-in-the-wake-of-the-battle-of-b-r5rb-price-indices-february-2014/?_ga=1.229708572.1433230448.1425016084

Which is a bit sloppy, IMO.

The battle of B-R was clearly an outlier, and should have been dummied out, but it looks like they are calculating a trend from B-R. So, I take as my starting point and outlier, calculate the trend as the market returns back to where it was prior to the outlier and OMG, a deflationary trend. Uhhmmm, no. Bad, statistics, bad. Don't make me rub your nose in it.

BTW, your first and second paragraph are somewhat at odds, claiming deflation then noting that there is less competition. Less competition usually means higher prices not lower prices.

"The player number declining puts a lot of players into deflation. Common wisdom is if you have tons of liquid isk, convert it to plex before you unsub so when you come back you will have both plex and a "hedge" against possible inflation (Eve has almost never had inflation, but plex has always inflated, so you get double bonus doing this)."

Market McSelling Alt

I do believe this is a bigger problem than most people realize. IF expensive PLEX is a problem that is..
I might have one or two PLEX stored away, and I didn't sell any when I logged off for almost 2 years. Judging others from my self I would say there is a huge number of PLEX on inactive accounts.

I have been back for a few months, but I haven't sold any, where should I put the ISK?

Well, with a decrease in players logged into the game it is possible that the demand has shifted inwards which would result in a price decrease. However, for deflation to become an ongoing problem the money supply would also need to shrink. While fewer players might mean that the the money supply is not growing by the same amount of ISK, it wouldn't mean it is shrinking.

Of course, without an actual banking industry to keep money in people's wallets still in economy, when players go inactive that could in effect be a type of ISK sink. That could cause the money supply to shrink leading to ongoing deflation.

Real Economic and Eve Economic are not the same.

Isk supply doesn't matter as much in Eve for regular things, the old economist and the new economic reporting show that supply of items are the driving force behind prices of goods.

Plex market is a whole different animal than the rest of the Eve Economy.

Basically, because people are building more efficiently, and in greater amounts, resources used less for super capitals, and drop modules and bpcs are on the rise from increased 0.0 and WH pve, we get declines in prices.

Isk supply has always been high, and half of all isk is currently in circulation according to CCP Quant.

Point to the part of my post where I mention "Competition"

The truth is, this economy in game is not like the real world in that material supply has been the sole primary driver of inflation/deflation.

The only thing that has ever caused inflation in the market was changes made by CCP to the build costs and introductions of game design changes. Eve has almost always been deflationary since they started keeping track.

You are referencing a post about PLEX, and the money supply does effect PLEX, as I have stated. I highlighted the part you couldn't read for yourself.

We were discussing how you think money supply has an effect on the economy of eve... which it has been shown for the last 12 years not to have been a factor in any measurable form.

But, you can continue to attribute posts about other things to this discussion if you would like. I find your lack of eve economic understanding amusing.

BTW, Market McSelling Alt have you stopped to consider that PLEX might be a superior good? That as incomes rise they take up a larger share of the customer's income....