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I don't use the character bazaar myself so I can't give you a conclusive answer to that. But going by CCP Rise's devblog the characters history and being stuck with a name he didn't want was a big drawback to using the bazaar. I can understand that point and so that is why I suggested a compromise could possibly be to erase history at the cost of SP loss.

If someone is willing to lose 25% of their SP to wipe their character then I'd say that is pretty reasonable. And after all it isn't unthinkable that in a high tec sci fi universe that there wouldn't be some way to erase ones identity at a cost.

ITT: buttmad old people yelling that someone else is allowed to have the same type of pie as them without slaving for 10 bajillion years.

GET REKT.

The notion that you should be able to simply purchase skills/ skill points, and the time invested in them, goes against everything I believed this game stood for.

Yes, i understand that basically people have been doing this all the time via the existing character bazaar, but at least in that case you were buying the whole package - the name, the skills, the reputation et al. This "proposal" drives a stake through the very heart of your identity in Eve.

I look fondly on my many millions of skill points on my two toons, and in fact I was looking forward to the day when I could post in the 200 level V skills thread. Now all cheapened - once again CCP wants it all to be about your credit card, and not the central tenet of your investment of time in this game.

.......no.

If, some years ago, you told me that by paying a small fee to CCP + some in-game mechanism I could directly add as much SP as I desired, to any character that I desired? I would've laughed. Eve was about meaningful choices, long term planning.

But now? Well....like the man said: "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here."

That still effectively leaves the same issue intact. You're stuck with a character that a) can't do what you want due to needing to wipe significant training or b) stuck with a character that does do what you want but has an identity you don't want.

The alternative is to buy characters worth significantly more than what you are looking for, but that doesn't resolve the issue of wanting to associate the skills with your character. The idea in the blog solves that, your's does not.

The problem I see here is that it does give you the ability to actually buy SP. That is terribad. SP should never be able to be purchased. A lot of people claiming this as Pay2Win? no, of course it's not. It's not different than buying a bunch of PLEX, selling it on the market, then using that ISK to buy a character off the bazaar. Just because you have the skills doesn't mean you necessarily know how to use them, and anyone who already knows how to use the skills has put the time into the game where it doesn't make a difference.

Here is where, in my opinion, it would work better.

As opposed to giving you unallocated SP, it actually does a rewrite of current SP.

Player 1 buys a skill extractor, pulls out 500,000SP of the skills he wants to remove, which are now unallocated, and can now reallocate those skills to something else.

Player 1 then uses those extracted skills to create the packet for the specific skills that he has extracted.

Player 2 can now buy the packet on the market, for those skills only.

Player 2 can now inject those skills, but in order to do so, he must give up 500,000SP of skills he has already trained to learn those new skills. In addition, he is learning the skills starting from 0SP for the skills he is injecting. Or, if he already has some level of training, they add on to what he already has in those skills.

This means that Player 2 doesn't need to buy skill books to train the skills, but gives him the chance to respec as well, and the market will drive the price of what skill packets are the most valuable at any given time.

Of course, if you don't have the necessary prereqs for the packet of skills you just purchased, then you cannot inject that packet of skills.

Stop trying to make buying skill points happen. Its not going to happen. Now, I wouldnt mind something that let me shuffle my ownn skill points around for aurm. Never the market though. No no no.

I spend more time in the Character Bazaar than I do in General Discussion. I can give you a conclusive answer.

About 10% of buyers care about name/reputation. They are primarily newish players buying their first character. The other 90% want one thing. The cheapest price for the type of character they are looking for. They'll buy it, use it, and sell it again when they get tired of it.

One example. Most of the WTBs right now are for Capital sitters. Do you really think these people care that the name is stupid or that they have GS, CODE and Test in the corp history? Of course not.

Mr Epeen

Another thought if this plan goes ahead: Create a second type of unallocated SP (different from the Skill reimbursement / refund / whathaveyou pool that we have now). This injectable SP can only go into this second Transneural Skillpoints pool.

This second pool can only be used to train skills that can be trained on Trial accounts. This would limit what all it can be used for, and would orient it more towards newer characters than old and rich ones.

No please no

I'm not going to read the previous 44 pages

why on earth would you want to do this? really


i have started playing eve nearly 10 ½ years ago

i have over 230m sp

you can gain about ~ 24m per year

why would you want to kill this?