Player Features and Ideas Discussion

300,000 to all the players. We vets will not benefit to the degree new players will so I agree its a good idea. However, fair is fair and I believe those of us who have played for years should not be slapped with favoritism towards new player without compensation. vets can use these skill points to round out uncommon ones we need w/o a total useless remap. These types of vet nerfs are beyond frustrating. Not wise to hit the players who made your game what it is today, CCP.

I think it'd be better if new accounts automatically trained a lot faster for the first X SP. Like x4 or x5 times faster. I know there's already some training acceleration for the first 30 days (IIRC), via an implant, but it's only x2 speed. I think it should be changed to not be days-based but rather be SP-based, and give x5 speed for the first 500k SP then x2 speed for the next 1M SP.

Also, some years ago when I tried to introduce a friend to EVE, I had great problems getting that friend to actually get around to setting a skill to train. That person was used to a more WoW-like gaming style where you go out and do quests or kill monsters to gain XP, so there was quite an amount of waste going on, with the new player unable to understand that every hour without a skill set to train was wasted opportunity. The friend seemed to sour on EVE after a couple of days, and never went back.

Maybe that was an almost unique occurence. Perhaps 99.99% of people who try EVE actually get it within 6-12 hours, achieving a comprehensive understanding of the dynamics of skill advancement and the consequences of not queuing up a skill.

But if that isn't the case, if it's actually a relatively common occurence, then new accounts ought to automatically put SP into a bank when they don't have a skill training, for the first week or so. Because when introducing a new player to EVE, it is rather annoying to have to press so hard on "but you have to do this thing" issue.

Alternatively, you could have a pop-up, immediately upon first log-on, asking the player whether he wants to start training [racial] Frigate skill. If the player clicks "yes, plz" then automagically queue [racial] Frigate to train all the way up to 5, skill level by skill level, and continue to do so until the player changes it. If the player clicks "no thx, I'd rather choose myself" then do nothing. Perhaps even add Navigation to the queue too, upon a click of "yes":

[racial] Frigate to 3
Navigation to 2
[racial] Frigate to 4
Navigation to 3
Navigation to 4
[racial] Frigate to 5
Navigation to 5

That gives the new players a fairly good opportunity to get used to the game, before being required to go in and mess with the skill queue. Without (note this is included in what I wrote earlier) being barred from going in and messing with it if desired.

Hello!

Has the cutoff starting date been decided for receiving the unallocated skillpoints? I started my first and only EVE character on September 15th, exactly 2 weeks before the Vanguard update. I've spent the bulk of my training time on basic skills that I would have received automatically if I had just waited 2 weeks to start playing, and even then I'm still missing several skills that are now default. It would be great to make up for the lost time. Other than this small frustration, my experience with EVE has been great. :)

Thanks,
Julian

Off the topic, the account you posted images into it belongs to you.

Maybe that advantage resulted in the change in the way those SP got applied to only new accounts. and only the top SP character of each account. And you better did'nt create a new account during the last two days before Vanguard got deployed.

Have you created a LOT of new chars on your accounts as suitably future cyno alts? :D

Yeah, I biomassed three alts with about 300k SP each and made new ones based on the original post. It was pretty clear what it said...

Well, still think that new accounts should get a +1M SP when subscribing from trial and being advertised and some 50% speed up in training up to 5M SP.


No matter what, they still be pretty far from the average 30/90M SP pilots out there.

i didn't meant about closing the gab but about keeping newbros around.

Now they can do more out of the box. good point
But if you got an incentive to dig it more, that's even better !

And you seem to miss the point that 300k sp will greatly help the newbros WAY more than someone running with 100m+ sp. That amount is a drop in the bucket to a 'bittervet' but yet they still complain that they aren't getting that sp. That is honestly pathetic.

I am now pushing 37m sp and I don't need the extra 300k sp since it won't benefit me as much as it would my friend who just joined Eve Online and is still learning the ropes.

A bittervet has the right to complain on the forums, but don't be surprised if no one takes them seriously. The only ones I am concerned about are the ones that just missed the cutoff. Maybe they should add 300k to every character under a certain sp and within a certain timeframe, maybe like those less than 1.5m sp and less than six weeks or so from Vanguard expansion.