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[December] Discovering a New Expedition Frigate

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C C P Alliance
#1 - 2015-10-02 17:04:01 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Logibro
Hello fellow Capsuleers!
CCP Terminus here to share some design stats for the new T2 Expedition Frigate. As some of you may know from the Evesterdam presentation by CCP Foxfour, this new frigate will be focusing on ice mining in the far reaches of New Eden. We think it will give a chance for the more adventurous miners out there to explore and mining valuable ice in places they haven’t had a chance to before, such as shattered wormholes and null-sec. So without further ado, here are the stats:


Endurance (Note: The ship was originally called the Discovery)

Expedition Frigates bonuses (per skill level):
  • 5% reduction to Ice Harvesting duration
  • 4% bonus to all shield resistances

Mining Frigate bonuses (per skill level):
  • 5% reduction to Ice Harvesting duration
  • 5% bonus to ore Mining yield

Role Bonuses:
  • 300% bonus to ore Mining yield
  • 50% reduction to Ice Harvesting duration
  • 50% reduction in Cloaking Devices CPU requirement
  • Cloak reactivation delay and targeting delay reduced to 5 seconds
  • No penalty to ship max velocity when using Cloaking Devices

Slot layout: 3 H, 4 M, 3 L, 1 Turret
2 Rig Slots, 400 Calibration
Fittings: 40 PWG, 280 CPU
Defense (shields / armour / hull): 1100 / 400 / 500
Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 0 / 20 / 40 / 50
Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 60 / 35 / 25 / 10
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 300 / 125s / 2.4
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / warp speed / align time): 420 / 2.4 / 1,600,000 / 5.5 / 5.32s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 15 / 30
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 20km / 750 / 4
Sensor strength: 10 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 40
Cargo capacity (cargo / ore): 200 / 15000


The Endurance will also be able to fit one of three new frigate sized Ice Mining Lasers, which can only be fitted to expedition frigates. They have the following stats:

Ice Mining Laser I
Skill Requirements: Mining IV, Ice Harvesting I
Fittings: 5 PWG, 50 CPU
Activation Cost: 10 GJ
Optimal Range: 7 Km
Duration: 360s
Mining Amount: 1000 m3

Ice Mining Laser II
Skill Requirements: Mining IV, Ice Harvesting V
Fittings: 6 PWG, 60 CPU
Activation Cost: 15 GJ
Optimal Range: 8 Km
Duration: 330s
Mining Amount: 1000 m3

ORE Ice Mining Laser
Skill Requirements: Mining IV, Ice Harvesting I
Fittings: 6 PWG, 60 CPU
Activation Cost: 15 GJ
Optimal Range: 11 Km
Duration: 330s
Mining Amount: 1000 m3


Some notes:

  • The Endurance mines ice slightly slower than mining barges, but mines individual blocks at a rapid pace with all its duration reductions.
  • Standard ore mining in a Endurance will be about as fast as a Venture due to the 300% role bonus to mining yield, but will be slower than a Prospect.
  • While the Prospect can fit the new Ice Mining Laser modules, and has an extra turret slot to fit two, it is still much slower at mining ice than the Endurance, and will require more trips back due to the smaller ore bay.
  • The Endurance cannot fit covert ops cloaking devices, though it does get bonuses and penalty reductions to fitting regular ones.
  • The Endurance and Prospect will be the only ship capable of mining ice from the frigate only Shattered Wormholes.
  • We’re hoping the Endurance works well for ninja mining the more valuable ice from null-sec. With its speed, shield tanking, and cloaking bonuses players should be able to make runs into null-sec for some of the crunchier ice.

@CCP_Terminus // Game Designer // Team Size Matters

C C P Alliance
#2 - 2015-10-02 17:04:45 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Terminus
Some Q&A:

What colour will it be? - Icy I hope :)

Will there be a small Ice Harvesting Accelerator Rig? - There is not one planned at this time, the Endurance has been balanced assuming there isn't one.

Will this have FW restrictions? - Not that I know of, I'll have to check the Prospect and it should be similar to that.

Does the 300% bonus to mining yield affect the ice mining yield? - No, that bonus affects ore mining yields only. This applies to the 5% mining yield bonus per level on the mining frigate skill as well.

How fast can the Endurance harvest Ice?

Endurance
Ice Mining Laser II - 1 block / 330 sec
Endurance Role Bonus (50% reduction) - 165 sec
Mining Frigate 5 Bonus (25% reduction) - 123.75 sec
Expedition Frigate 5 Bonus (25% reduction) - 92.81 sec
Ice Harvesting Skill 5 (25% reduction) - 69.60 sec
Inherent Implants 'Yeti" Ice Harvester IH-1005 (5% reduction) - 66.12 sec
'Ingenii' Ice Harvester Upgrade (10%) - 59.51 sec
'Ingenii' Ice Harvester Upgrade (10%) - 53.56 sec
'Ingenii' Ice Harvester Upgrade (10%) - 48.20 sec

Fastest Cycle = 48.20 seconds

How well does the Endurance mine ore?
Miner II - 60 m3/m
Mining V (skill, 25%) - 75 m3/m
Astrogeology V (skill, 25%) - 93 m3/m
Endurance Role Bonus (300%) - 375 m3/m
Endurance Mining Frigate Bonus V (25%) - 469 m3/m
Low Slot 1 - 'Aoede' Mining Laser Upgrade (10%) - 515 m3/m
Low Slot 2 - 'Aoede' Mining Laser Upgrade (10%) - 567 m3/m
Low Slot 3 - 'Aoede' Mining Laser Upgrade (10%) - 623 m3/m
Inherent Implants 'Highwall' Mining MX-1005 (5%) - 655 m3/m

Best yield = 655.1 m3 per minute.

Ore mining rate of the other mining frigates:

Venture - 541.4 m3/m
Prospect - 900.7 m3/m (this is due to the extra 25% expedition frigate mining bonus, and the 4 low slots)

@CCP_Terminus // Game Designer // Team Size Matters

Rejection Of Sovereignty
#3 - 2015-10-02 17:19:29 UTC
I like this, however, it does put a bit of a skill wall up for younger players who wish to gather resources under hostile conditions.
Fraternity.
#4 - 2015-10-02 17:20:38 UTC  |  Edited by: MuraSaki Siki
when does Discovering plan to ship?

EDIT : oh i see the update in heading Big smile
Verge of Collapse
#5 - 2015-10-02 17:21:51 UTC
The powercreep has now arrived in the ice belts aswell.

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#6 - 2015-10-02 17:51:01 UTC
beware ninja ice miners!

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2015-10-02 17:53:56 UTC
Neat. When is this going to be on sisi? :x
Arataka Research Consortium
#8 - 2015-10-02 17:54:14 UTC
Why can't the Venture fit the new ice miners?
C C P Alliance
#9 - 2015-10-02 17:55:44 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Terminus
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Why can't the Venture fit the new ice miners?

You have to be part of the cool club to mine ice of course. i.e train for 8 days into a mining barge

We're playing it safe for now, and not introducing ice mining at such a cheap investment as a venture. This could change in the future if we felt it was warranted.

@CCP_Terminus // Game Designer // Team Size Matters

Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2015-10-02 17:57:55 UTC
To bad you are not announcing upgrades for the rorqual.
#11 - 2015-10-02 17:58:33 UTC
the actual question is: what color is it?

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2015-10-02 17:59:38 UTC
What colour will it be?
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2015-10-02 18:00:01 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
the actual question is: what color is it?

Laetitia Nzero wrote:
What colour will it be?

lol, art has the final say but I'm hoping for something icy

@CCP_Terminus // Game Designer // Team Size Matters

Pandemic Legion
#14 - 2015-10-02 18:01:34 UTC
Anyone wanna guess what isk/hour you could make with one of these in null?
#15 - 2015-10-02 18:03:23 UTC
Selto Black wrote:
I like this, however, it does put a bit of a skill wall up for younger players who wish to gather resources under hostile conditions.


No, it does not. They can still attempt the same thing in cheap ships.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Spaceship Bebop
#16 - 2015-10-02 18:04:31 UTC
What size FW plex gate restrictions will it have (if any)?
#17 - 2015-10-02 18:05:20 UTC
I like the idea. I'm sure it will have some use for WH folks, but I have yet to ever see someone ninja mining ores in null sec - gas, yes - but not ores. Not sure ninja ice mining will ever be a thing.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2015-10-02 18:19:54 UTC
The two utility highs on the Discovery are very interesting.

This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

#19 - 2015-10-02 18:31:28 UTC
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
What size FW plex gate restrictions will it have (if any)?


I like the cut of your jib.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2015-10-02 18:36:39 UTC
Will there be a Small Ice Harvesting Accelerator rig?

This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

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