EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

That's not the reason at all, and thinking it is supports the notion that you suffer from a victim complex.

Please provide evidence that CCP barring Hydra/Outbreak for violating rules was actually because they wanted vengeance for the match fixing in ATIX as you claimed.

I'll wait.

That's a bit mean, none of us are important enough to have our opinions really matter.

He does have a point though about the defensive complex, you do seem to feel that CCP has victimised Hyrda when it's actually CCP who has to deal with the extra workload and problems that having Hydra in creates.

That or you just play the victim card in this thread because there's little else to use as a defence. Let's face it Hydra wiggles the rules in absolutely everything for the best possible advantage, so it is something they'd do isn't it?

But you did repeat it.

This right now, is a repetition.

CCP has been embarrassed, the legitimacy of the AT has been called into question and the prizes have been moved into stasis while an investigation is being held. This didn't happen in ATIX, CCP waited a year before doing anything

PL didn't get punished because it did nothing wrong (traditional definition, not Hydra definition). Crying because PL didn't take the fall what Hydra did isn't likely to get you much sympathy

I don't think CCP will be taking Hydra's 11th promise not to do it again seriously

This is what happens when you deliberately miss-interpret and distort CCPs posts for your own agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u0EL_u4nvw

seriously though. You know no one else in their right ******* mind would have tried to fix the finals of the AT because 'it wasn't technically against the rules' and think they would get away with it, not once, but several times? I mean its not like you tried to do the same exact thing and got barred from the tournament.

The reason CCP barred waffles is very simple, and something I dont think you can wrap your tiny lilttle brain around (can you see how your evasive, nonsensical, bad political PR posts have made me feel bobby?).

CCP are incredibly invested in being impartial. The reason waffles got barred, is not because they would have done anything wrong, CCP knows with certainty they wouldn't have, they just wont say it. They did it, so you couldn't try and throw in their face the fact they werent being impartial about only banning you, which is exactly the kind of hilariously bad argument youre trying to make now.

Because here's the thing, I know you understand it, youre not ********, just really dumb to continue posting as if you're 'winning'. Most groups are in the tournament to have fun, hopefully make some isk, and PLAY WITHIN THE RULES. PL has never been penialized for doing anything in a tournament that wasn't a genuine mistake, because we want to win legitemately, its half the fun of the tournament, having a set base of rules. HYDRA have never really seemed to care about that, which is fine, youre allowed not to give a **** about the rules to make isk, a lot of people do it IRL. The best part about eve though is, if you **** off the devs enough with your blatant line towing smugness, they can just change the rules of the game, and the second you cross that line, there is no forgiveness.

It doesn't matter wither CCP can find proof of hydra cheating this year, nobody cares about the tournament isk but you guys, what matters is youre never going to be able to pull these bullshit stunts again, and your desperate flailings and backpedallings so you can even try again next year are the best forum porn ive ever seen.

If DHB's logs are skype logs then it's been game over since day 1, most people have assumed they were skype logs.

Skype logs are stored for 30 days by default on Skypes cloud servers and cannot be edited by users. All Wildcat has ever had to do is have a Skype call with a CCP employee and share his screen (inbuilt in Skype) and simply scroll up to the relevent part of the convo - just 1 of countless ways CCP can verify the logs.

It's no secret and I'm sure there are Hydra pilots that have complied fully with the investigation because they knew this was always a slamdunk by Wildcat.

The other 12 pages were just me enjoying myself

Are you saying that the best pilots didn't come out on top this year?

It's true, we only managed to achieve 2nd place and PL took 1st on both of those occasions.

It just goes to show how important having a good team to practice with is.

This isn't something we could know from watching the tournament.

He can also look up the users exact skype name while screensharing which will confirm it is the real Kadesh (right click->view profile)

Also the timestamps in Skype would mean Wildcat would had to have prepared all this before the final.

I'm certain many in Hydra have realised this, which is why none of them have posted anything since the investigation began, they've realised the game was up - which indicates they all knew, even if they weren't directly told. (Bad Bobby isn't actually part of the team, he's just a well wisher)