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Why are so many people writing bitchy responses to this and spreading misinformation like chinese whispers?

English speaking territories obviously is a reference to there being no alternative language translations - not literal EU classification..

Also, the whole concept of it being a console game is to cross the dimensions of having a console game and a pc MMO blended - its not a sponsor decision or a 'CCP WANTS TO WRECK YOUR DAY' decision. It's never been done before and its a very curious and ambitious idea that could change the face of EVE if its as popular as anticipated. I for one will be giving it a bash whether I'm involved in the beta or not. I just hope that the depth that has been described in the blogs and articles gives it the staying power to outdo the likes of COD who became stale after a month or less.

The fact they chose PS3 and not XBOX makes me very happy because PS3 is the standard for console gaming and XBOX is and always will be a second-rate pet project. The only way XBOX can float its console is by tying up franchises and slashing its console price. It has an awkwardly shaped controller and half its XBOX unique lines are as bad as nintendo's legacy.

However, lets not stray from the point. XBOX vs PS3 is a quasi-religious topic - however - some of the guff you people write is embarrassing. Use some of that intelligence and don't add stupid to the dog pile!

and I just been reading posts that suggest ps3 is a console owned by 12 year olds..

The original playstation was celebrated as a phenomenon for bringing 25-35+ into the computer games market on a large scale (i remember an article when I used to buy the magazines) and you will notice that a large portion of playstation titles are mature content as opposed to nintendo and sega (RIP) who were making (and in nintendos case) are still making, games targetted at a younger audience.

Just because the most vocal people on COD's voicechat are squeaky kids, don't assume that the rest of us are no-brainer kiddies.

So long as DUST brings the quality and depth of EVE, you can rest assured that it'll attract mature players who're likely to then try EVE. All this 'I won't buy a console for one game/PC to play EVE' is a crock of ****. As stated earlier, there are some 55 million ps3 owners out there already so it really doesn't matter if you buy a ps3 or not.

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can´t wait for it :) time to de-DUST the playstation

I don't usually jump in with responses to threads like these, but there are times when I just cannot sit idly by and watch people make a fool of themselves.

This is one of those times.

I own an Xbox, not a PS3. I was overjoyed to hear that the PS3 was going to be the home of Dust514. Not for the expense; it'll put me that little bit further away from buying a new motorbike. But because, it must be said, the PS3 is a more capable console. Sure, it's got some power supply issues on the older versions, and some of the newer versions overheat a mite, but the X360 is just the same. Some are clunky some way, some another.

It happens. The PS3 has a lot more processing and graphics power under the hood, plus a more slick and appealing UI. I think the PS3 is a better console, I've just been waiting for a good enough reason to buy it.

To those of you who have been bitching that Dust was going to be Xbox exclusive: Please, lurk some more before posting. All it takes is a little research to find out that, apparently, the switch was a result of Microsoft denying CCP access to their network infrastructure to test the principles of Dust.

That, and the Microsoft and therefore Xbox infrastructure, console architecture, network capabilities and, let's be honest, publishing brainpower (is that an oxymoron? Who knows) was never created with the intention of handling 64+ player games. The PS3 and PSN were.

Then consider the engine the game's created in: UE3. Here's another interesting point for you all to consider. The UE3 came out years ago, literally, and still produces some beautiful games. How? Experience, skill, and some beautiful coding. The engine allows for incredible scalability - a core tenet of CCP's production process, I'd like to point out - that allows developers who use the engine to make beautiful games at relatively low computation cost. This is what will let CCP run 64player matches without melting PS3s left right and centre. The Xbox has neither the processing power, even with the scalability of UE3, to handle such large matches, nor the architecture to fully utilise the UE3.

The X360 has to use UE3 in DX9 mode, which is just clunky. The PS3 on the other hand can use UE3 in OGL, and while I admit that OGL has it's issues, just like DX, it suits the direction that CCP seem to be going with Dust a lot more.

Now, where there any more inane comments people would like to make? If anyone has anything useful to add, interject or contradict, please do. However, if you want to attempt to achieve truth by repetition on the grounds of "you're wrong" or "I heard that...", please don't waste my time and yours. You have no more facts than I do, I'm just better at drawing useful conclusions and intelligent conjecture than you are.

tl;dr: The PS3 has been chosen for Dust because it is better for Dust.

another tl;dr: I dislike people who appear to be deliberately stupid.

As a recent game design graduate, I wanted to chime in on this. The 360 is a good console, but it's at it's limits right now. Halo Reach's multiplayer maxes the system out. Dust can not run on the 360. It's not that CCP doesn't want it on the 360, (they do because the online community for FPS's is much larger on the 360) the game just simply can't work on it.

One other major issue that Final Fantasy XI had when they went from PS2/PC to PS2/PC/360 was that Microsoft funnels your connection threw the Live servers before sending you to the severs for what ever game you are playing. For an MMO that was designed for a dial-up connection, this was fine, but the people on 360 still lagged a lot more than the others because of it.

And as a quick side note, Sony understands that these cross platform games outlast their consoles. If you go to the PSN store, there is a free download that updates your system so that it can have a game that needed to be instaled on the PS2 hard drive to instal on the PS3's. This may only be there for the backwards compatable PS3's, but it at least shows that they understand that something like Dust could be around into and possibly past the PS4, and if they follow what they have already done, you'll be able to play it on that.

Maybe when the next microsoft console comes out they can make a version of Dust for that, but right now the 360 can't take a game like this... That and if microsoft changes their practices with Live, which they most likely wont.

You people whine and cry like babies every chance you get. I think most of you do it intentionally


Part of the purpose of Dust is to bridge the gap between consoles and PC. making Dust a PC game would void that strategy. I for one signed up and am very anxious to get a Beta Key.

I have a dual box setup, with my ps3 hooked to one of my monitors. So I will be able to play Eve and Dust, without lagging out my Eve client.

Maybe it's a good thing its not on PC...

Get over it and find something else to cry about...geez.

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I'm glad this won't be on crapBox. I don't want a bunch of little 13 and 14 year old HALO kids ruining a good shooter. And, of course, the ps3 won't die as a result of being used.

Most new shooters have to recoup their costs, just like a blockbuster movie - they need to know their audience, and sell a good volume of copies on release. If they don't, they lose money, "fail" and won't see a sequel or expansions. If Dust 514 were a standalone product - it would indeed have to worry about "the customer base" and projected subscriptions and all that.

However, being financed by EvE subscription income, Dust 514 is in a much safer position - it doesnt have to go toe-to-toe with Halo. CCP will be just fine whether dust sells a thousand copies or a hundred thousand copies.

I guarantee you Dust 514 will start slow. That's fine, we need it to start slow lest it disrupt our EvE world too much - there will be integrative and economic issues to resolve, I'd much rather work those out with a small console community first than a mad-dash Call of Duty release level of new players jumping into Tranquility via their PS3's.

But don't be fooled - once its off the ground, and working as intended, it WILL draw players. Word of mouth and positive media reviews will bring all the players Dust needs in the long run, and thankfully CCP can afford to wait long enough to see it all realized.

EvE took a while to build to the community it has today, Dust will too - its important to keep in mind that CCP isn't looking to harness an existing MMOFPS / RTS console player base - it is looking to create one from a void.

Ever seen Field of Dreams? "If you build it, they will come" is the philosophy here.



EDIT - and no, I'm not a CCP employee :) I know I sound a bit like marketing staff here, but I'm not. Just a fan trying to see the silver lining here, I truly believe this is a great thing for EvE and a time for everyone to be excited whether you have a PS3 or not. We can all use more reasons to fight with our spaceships - and the sovereignty mechanics HAVE to be overhauled for Dust 514 to work. This is a win even if you're not going to be rolling up a merc toon, as lowsec / nullsec Sov changes are long overdue and currently stagnating a lot of potential good fights in spaceship land.