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Due to forced standing changes Loyalty Points should all transfer
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Sugar Smacks
Khanid Royal Navy
Khanid.
#1 - 2015-09-10 08:43:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Sugar Smacks
When CCP destroyed all the uses for standing to all the PVE community they gave us nothing back. But on top of that we are stuck with loyalty points scattered between the whole galaxy.

I think i speak for anyone that would have known such a drastic change was coming from CCP, we wouldn't want a bunch of loyalty points scattered everywhere.

Did they add anything to encourage you to get standing from smaller npc corporations? Of course not
Did they remove without warning the benefits of having standing with smaller npc corporations? Yes

How can it not be fair if they are going to screw over everyone to at least not make us have to eat all the loyalty that way too.

Or add content for standings, but you should of done that already.

Do you even care about the countless hours of work you screwed people out of?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#2 - 2015-09-10 09:10:04 UTC
The benefits from having standing with a small NPC corporation is pretty much the same as they always were, and they were never particularly relevant.

Also, how are you “stuck” with LP? Why aren't you cashing it in?
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#3 - 2015-09-10 09:28:43 UTC
Tippia wrote:
The benefits from having standing with a small NPC corporation is pretty much the same as they always were, and they were never particularly relevant.

Also, how are you “stuck” with LP? Why aren't you cashing it in?


Oh yes, now everyone can have F2P what used to be B2P... but hey. It's not as if CCP had a tradition to make PvErs feel relevant, quite the contrary...

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2015-09-10 09:35:34 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Oh yes, now everyone can have F2P what used to be B2P.
Not really. The only thing that has changed in that regard are jump clones, and that was just a horrible grind for no sensible reason and with no connection to the activity it was somehow reliant on.

It was bound to be detached from missions sooner or later and the only loss here is that it robbed some players of an interesting (if very minor) service profession.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-09-10 09:48:35 UTC
Tippia wrote:
The benefits from having standing with a small NPC corporation is pretty much the same as they always were, and they were never particularly relevant.

Also, how are you “stuck” with LP? Why aren't you cashing it in?


I'm sure he's talking about that 5 LP with Imperial Shipments and that 210 LP with The Scope and every other NPC corps with EVE. It's like having loose change from all the countries you visited and you can't get rid of them because they're permanently stuck in your wallet until you use them but they're not enough to actually buy anything.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#6 - 2015-09-10 10:11:01 UTC
So me being able to install a JC anywhere is bad because you don't know how to open up the LP store?

GTFO
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2015-09-10 10:22:02 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
I'm sure he's talking about that 5 LP with Imperial Shipments and that 210 LP with The Scope and every other NPC corps with EVE. It's like having loose change from all the countries you visited and you can't get rid of them because they're permanently stuck in your wallet until you use them but they're not enough to actually buy anything.

That was my first impression too, but that one has been a problem since, oh, probably around 600 BC or so when, according to Google, the first standardised coins (and thus loose pocket change) were invented. P

It certainly hasn't anything to do with standings.
David Therman
#8 - 2015-09-10 10:25:59 UTC
Sugar Smacks wrote:


I think i speak for anyone that would have known such a drastic change was coming from CCP, we wouldn't want a bunch of loyalty points scattered everywhere.



No, you don't, and there are things you can exchange for LP that are in constant demand. Granted, the LP-ISK ratio may be poor in most cases, but it'll leave you better off in any event. If it's only a matter of a few hundred loyalty points, that's not enough to warrant posting this I'm afraid.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#9 - 2015-09-10 11:10:44 UTC
David Therman wrote:
Sugar Smacks wrote:


I think i speak for anyone that would have known such a drastic change was coming from CCP, we wouldn't want a bunch of loyalty points scattered everywhere.



No, you don't, and there are things you can exchange for LP that are in constant demand. Granted, the LP-ISK ratio may be poor in most cases, but it'll leave you better off in any event. If it's only a matter of a few hundred loyalty points, that's not enough to warrant posting this I'm afraid.


Also... Wasn't this an unintended change that CCP didn't realize would occur?
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-09-10 11:25:51 UTC

The purpose of the change was making it easier to install a jc in a region of choice to counter jump fatigue that would pretty much tie a char in a null region. Has nothing to do with LP or PVE.
One of the good changes along with clone grades removal and longer skill queue. Number of installed jc and the time between jumps is still limited by skills so what seems to be the issue?

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2015-09-10 11:35:27 UTC
Sugar Smacks wrote:
When CCP destroyed all the uses for standing to all the PVE community they gave us nothing back. But on top of that we are stuck with loyalty points scattered between the whole galaxy.

I think i speak for anyone that would have known such a drastic change was coming from CCP, we wouldn't want a bunch of loyalty points scattered everywhere.

Did they add anything to encourage you to get standing from smaller npc corporations? Of course not
Did they remove without warning the benefits of having standing with smaller npc corporations? Yes

How can it not be fair if they are going to screw over everyone to at least not make us have to eat all the loyalty that way too.

Or add content for standings, but you should of done that already.

Do you even care about the countless hours of work you screwed people out of?


Can you quantify exactly how you're worse off?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#12 - 2015-09-10 12:20:51 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Tippia wrote:
The benefits from having standing with a small NPC corporation is pretty much the same as they always were, and they were never particularly relevant.

Also, how are you “stuck” with LP? Why aren't you cashing it in?


Oh yes, now everyone can have F2P what used to be B2P... but hey. It's not as if CCP had a tradition to make PvErs feel relevant, quite the contrary...


I'm a PVEr, and I feel 'relevant'. Then again, i don't limit my PVE to just the starter class BS of high sec...

I guess I'm doing it wrong and should act like someone is victimizing me, I'll be a real PVEr then!
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#13 - 2015-09-10 12:24:04 UTC
Sugar Smacks wrote:
When CCP destroyed all the uses for standing to all the PVE community


Every time i see this, I wonder if it's something about High Sec PVE that attracts people who can't speak for themselves, but rather appoint themselves to the position of spokesperson. Why is it so hard to say "you know, I don't like this" rather than "you screwed all of us over"?
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#14 - 2015-09-10 13:21:30 UTC
So... the sole reason people PVE was to grind standings to establish jump clones?
Good lord i was doing it so wrong for so many years.
Can I feel retroactively invalidated?
I mean I do PVP mostly now, but I still run a few missions now and then. Some of them are even my own.
Is it wrong I feel relieved instead of outraged because of these changes?

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Paranoid Loyd
#15 - 2015-09-10 13:23:08 UTC
3/10

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#16 - 2015-09-10 13:28:21 UTC
Just in case, can I buy a spare pitchfork from you Loyd?

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#17 - 2015-09-10 15:15:20 UTC
Oh do shut up OP, when they dropped the standing requirements for hisec POS's I lost 50% of my income stream. I didn't feel the need to whine about it on the forums and simply found another source of income.

Grow up, deal with it, and stop being a whiny little kid.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#18 - 2015-09-10 15:25:35 UTC
'Transfer' is a transitive verb - you need an object in the title of this thread. I suggest you edit it immediately.



As to the content of the OP, I didn't read it. It's a brilliant/awful idea (delete as appropriate).

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-09-10 15:42:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Markus Reese
As a PvEer... I do not get what is being asked for.

Transfer LP cause no longer need grind for jump clones? I have not noticed changes in LP mechanics....

Really. How has standings changes changed anything for LP? Is it because you ran secondary factions to gain something and now dont have to? LP was useless before. You gained elsewhere. If you actully used LP, then standings stuff wouldnt matter either.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Jack Hayson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-09-10 15:55:19 UTC
Wat?
How are LPs connected to jump clones?

Also why did you grind standing with so many different corps just to make jump clones? You only needed standings with a single corp to make jump clones.
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