Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It came as a shock on Friday when I went through highsec with no wardecs


Highec isk making is better than in null for a fraction of the risk and downtime.

Because most people live there because it's ludicrously safe and rewarding, while groups from null ship stuff out of there because industry in null is dead.

About right?

Anyone who utters this tripe is talking out of their arse.

I would like to see a null sec pve ignore entire dessy gangs that land on him, cause thats what you do in high sec.

High sec has concord to slap around anyone that engages you, you just have to survive till they show up. You can ignore them in high sec if you aren't stupid where as null no one is coming to save you.

High sec is by far the safest place in the game.

Good lord man. What the hell did the Imperium do to you to make you so incredibly butthurt? I mean seriously, reread this from a neutral standpoint (if you are able) and see how insanely grr it is.

Long story short though mate, there's all types in this game, and you sitting around crying that we exist won't change that.

Of course you are, but it's still coming across as crying.

Objectively wrong. Large groups such as ours are a good part of the reason that EVE is as widely known as it is. No game mechanics are being exploited, and we're certainly nowhere close to invulnerable. In addition, most of the changes that have made things more difficult for us have been driven by us.

But that's not neutral, since you're claiming multiple things that are false. Game mechanics aren't being exploited and the group isn't even close to invulnerable. Effectively what is happening is a group of paying customers are working together (as is actively encouraged) to achieve more than other groups, to be winning so to speak. In all MMOs, there are groups and players who outperform all others. The only thing that makes EVE different is that this portion of the game is highly competitive.

Imagine it's a team deathmatch. Our team is working together, while your team is split into little groups and trying to do your own thing. It's neither our fault nor the games that you refuse to do what you need to win. You want to compete, but you refuse to work with others and instead think the mechanics should force us to split up. It's not going to happen. If you can't handle that, move on.

This is just coming across as grr gons. Your irrational hatred for an organisation is why your opinion should be ignored simply because you can't give honest feedback. We are trying to tell CCP where the problems are with the new Sov mechanics so they can make the system as fun as possible while also being "goon proof". No matter what we say you will be against it simply because of the alliance ticker.

Ok, you see it how you like.
You obviously know my intentions and what I mean far better than I do.

LOL team deathmatch - You really are off with the pixies aren't you. TDM's have rules, limits on group sizes etc - Your group would not be able to enter as a whole. It would need to reduce in size to compete. I for years played a game where TDM was part of daily game play, team sizes were limited to 100 and they were a lot of fun. Developers removed the ability for groups to form into large alliances (alliance sizes were capped at 500 or 5 clans with a maximum of 100 members in each) because they found large dominating groups hindered normal game play. When they removed large alliances they lost a lot of players but as word spread that the large groups had been disbanded, player numbers grew even higher. When I left the server was averaging 50k players online per day. There are something like 30 servers all over the world and the one I played was one of the smallest population wise. (before you ask, I no longer play because they moved to a full on pay to win model)(which was nearly as bad as when the server had 2 large dominating groups, who didn't fight "each other")

And the "you vs the rest" attitude you presume is exactly why such a large group is bad for Eve. One mega group lording it over all others (most of whom chose not to be "just another one" in the blob) is not playing the game.

Look up what exploit means - It is EXACTLY what your group does. And for the record, nothing I said was false, your group is "all but invulnerable" (which is what I said) you push mechanics to their limit (exploiting them to their fullest).

By your logic, I won Eve for four years (the time I was part of the CFC) - Then realized - I wanted to play eve and moved on.
There are groups within the CFC many would like to fight but can't because they have so many allies - Everyone loses out on content because the dinosaur is too big for the average group to tackle.

You include the wrong numbers in your argument. Not High sec people are who matter, it is people living in Null sec. People who live in High sec, as you very well know and as it has been confirmed by you and Lucas Kell are not interested in risk for one part, and for the other part not in Null sec in the first place. People who live in Null sec already are who can oppose you, and there are certainly not 90% of people able to oppose you. Including people who have no interest in Null sec life or politics in the calculation is a cheap trick.