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Petition - Contract time based rewards

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Crimson Draufgange
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#41 - 2015-08-25 20:28:10 UTC
Wow, Rita Jita has many minions as proved by this thread.

I'm not one of them and I still give this a +1.

My Velator is overpowered.

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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#42 - 2015-08-25 20:45:55 UTC
Crimson Draufgange wrote:
Wow, Rita Jita has many minions as proved by this thread.

I'm not one of them and I still give this a +1.

I know right? I see no reason why this shouldn't be in game, it is a good idea after all.

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Crimson Draufgange
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#43 - 2015-08-25 21:45:32 UTC
If you think about it, this idea is sort of already is in the game, just not as a game mechanic. If pilots want to reward those that go the extra mile, they can do that now by sending some ISK, a free ship, stuff, etc. to the contracter. Implementing a game mechanic would just make it easier, so yes, good idea.

My Velator is overpowered.

"I use my hairgel to tackle my targets because it has a long lasting firm hold." - Me.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2015-08-25 22:32:27 UTC
Crimson Draufgange wrote:
If you think about it, this idea is sort of already is in the game, just not as a game mechanic. If pilots want to reward those that go the extra mile, they can do that now by sending some ISK, a free ship, stuff, etc. to the contracter. Implementing a game mechanic would just make it easier, so yes, good idea.


Wouldn't it be fine to set this up in front of jobs done and don't worry about sending isk later on? And again it's up to you if you want to set up extra reward, you still may not and send iskies later on. Roll

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Vince Nolen
Doomheim
#45 - 2015-08-26 02:32:49 UTC
+1
I already do this deal with haulers like most of us do.
be nice to have in the contract system.
LLeylar Kiiran
Society of Penguins
#46 - 2015-08-26 09:43:02 UTC
Obvious idea for something that is already being done, just on an informal basis.

Yes please, this is long overdue !
Marcola Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#47 - 2015-08-26 12:44:14 UTC
+1
Nero Farway
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2015-08-26 13:38:26 UTC
I Support this.

We should be able to set the Bonus time though. Like within 2 hours -->10m bonus, within 4 hours ---> 3m bonus etc.

Should also be able to do a 0 Reward contract with only a single bonus reward of 1 hour --> 20m or something. This would make only people who want to deliver it within 1 hour take the contract but in the event they cannot do it within that time for whatever reason, they at least can get back their collateral by delivering (though the reward will be gone).
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2015-08-26 13:49:26 UTC
+1

Gimme.

Grrr.
joyous the
Slippery Penguin
#50 - 2015-08-27 02:48:18 UTC  |  Edited by: joyous the
Really a no brainer addition.

The fact that i have to advertise giving a bonus by XX, rather than it not being a feature is just a lack of design. Move it forward.
Blackdawg
Sphere Industries
Recursive Horizons
#51 - 2015-08-27 02:48:45 UTC
+1 Support
Thalderan Kalkoken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#52 - 2015-08-27 02:56:00 UTC
+1 supported. I think this will also help the little guys (like myself) who are just getting started. Afterall, gotta have the ISK to make the ISK.
Keldon Mernher
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#53 - 2015-08-27 03:00:44 UTC
+1
Jarax Jaed
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2015-08-27 03:02:09 UTC
+1 :D
alphasirius
Sirius Trade Corporation
#55 - 2015-08-27 11:41:00 UTC
+1 supported
Eva Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2015-08-27 23:54:41 UTC
+1 under the condition that the ratio between reward and bonus is in favour to the reward. The bonus should not exxceed 30% - 50% of the reward.
Rita Jita
Caldari Provisions
#57 - 2015-08-28 00:46:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Rita Jita
Eva Ohu wrote:
+1 under the condition that the ratio between reward and bonus is in favour to the reward. The bonus should not exxceed 30% - 50% of the reward.



not sure agree with the need for base rewards being being the majority payout, considering that most people will be willing to pay double if they need the item quicker, and if the base rewards are low, they will face the same slow shipping they always do.


could do something like a bonus pool;

lets say if completed within;
3 hours = 100% Bonus pool
6 hours = 75% Bonus pool
9 hours = 50% Bonus pool
12 hours 25% Bonus pool

12+ = 0% bonus

this would leave a single bonus pool option in the contract screen.

just a thought.

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2015-08-28 01:10:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
Time factor is a key one here, but if we want to switch that to reward base and then calc % that means that reward should be high enough to make reward attractive. Otherwise you have to set this manually during contract creation.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#59 - 2015-08-28 07:36:10 UTC
Nero Farway wrote:
I Support this.

We should be able to set the Bonus time though. Like within 2 hours -->10m bonus, within 4 hours ---> 3m bonus etc.

Should also be able to do a 0 Reward contract with only a single bonus reward of 1 hour --> 20m or something. This would make only people who want to deliver it within 1 hour take the contract but in the event they cannot do it within that time for whatever reason, they at least can get back their collateral by delivering (though the reward will be gone).

No, this is exploitable. You can just bump the freighter for an hour or 30 minutes and then either kill it or let it go so that he delivers the overcollaterized stuff for you and you do not need to pay reward. A Bonus is a Bonus for a reason. There ought to be no 0% Reward/100% Bonus contracts because then the Bonus is the reward. Any such mechanic is just going to be exploited and put to no good use.

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Sang Zhang
First Interstate Bank
#60 - 2015-08-28 10:03:51 UTC
+1