EVE General Discussion

At the moment, CCP don't appear to want to add anything further to WiS.

I hate it when I remember something CCP Seagull has said, but can't find it immediately. She said something recently that made it clear that WiS is not a current or near future development direction.

To you it kinda might be.

That's different to a legal classification, which does not currently apply to Eve:

http://www.pegi.info/en/index/global_id/505/?searchString=eve+online

Nope, it's a game of skill. Lady luck and her RNG is a killer.

Actually, by adding the gambling classification on PEGI, it only means the game can't be lower than a 12, which it already is. It wouldn't require any legislation unless you were able to gamble for real money.

Technically speaking they should already have that classification though, as you engage in gambling through third party sites and through the Jita spammers. Sure, those are in almost every case scams, but it's still a promotion of gambling occurring within the game and being specifically allowed by the developers.

And CCP have decided not to advance WiS beyond what we already have. That being the case perhaps you should follow your own advice.

why would ccp want to create gambling when 3rd parties do it for them and ccp dont have to put up with the sh!t that iwantisk deals with

Actually they wanted to but there was such a **** storm from veteran players that they decided to bow under the pressure and work on more spaceships.

If they didnt want to why did they make it in the first place? >.> durrrr

Really?

Break it down for me so that Eve is compliant and remains compliant with changing legislation Workdwide associated with gambling.

If it's so easy, how do you achieve Worldwide compliance continuously?

Australian Capital Territory and yes I'm understanding the legislation correctly. Whether you want to believe that or not.

CCP don't directly offer gambling in the game, nor do they offer it outside the game. 3rd parties do. So the risk isn't with CCP unless they directly offer it as mentioned as a possibility for WiS by Jenshae above. But the moment CCP decide to develop gambling options as features of Eve, then they would be accepting the responsibility to comply.

While we can both see that it is all in game currency, so might seem just the same as any other free online games and apps, the law isn't always so straight forward. The ability to purchase PLEX for cash, sell that for ISK and then gamble exposes problem gamblers to the potential of substantial real cash loss in game. Problem gambling has had a significant focus from the community in Australia over the last few years and being the nanny State we are, legislation to protect people from themselves has been implemented in recent years.


Edit: checking the legislation, they could operate poker (because not all eve players are based in Australia - go figure) but could not offer sports betting. The legislation is fairly complex in games that can be played online and those that can't and how and when. So CCP could not easily replace eve-bet for example. When I search for non-Australian based sports betting sites, they either don't accept registration from Australian addresses, they redirect automatically to an Australian licensed site or just provide a message similar to this: http://puu.sh/jkeqF/786f7bb15a.jpg the whole PLEX aspect of dong it in Eve muddies the water.

But but but,....."Immersion"! Who needs a spaceship with a warp drive when you can use LEGS!

It works in real life too, instead of driving my car for 10 minutes to go the 8 miles to work, I immerse myself by getting out the old horse and buggy and taking 14 days to make the same trip lol. Can't wait till CCP gives us real WiS so I can watch people walk to talk to their agent while I click a single button to accomplish the same goal and make more isk per hour