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Shield Boosting

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#41 - 2015-05-21 05:26:56 UTC
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Are you actually looking for an answer or is this just a rant because it does not work the way you thought it works?


It seemed plausible that a SBA might work on remote reps

Less so the ship bonus

I'm not convinced any of you actually know if a SBA works on remote reps. Personally I think it is unlikely but unlikely isn't the same as impossible.


Radical skepticism has its place in the world, I suppose. Not so much in Eve.

In a world designed by other humans to have rules, those rules just apply. If you have any question about how they work, you can endeavor to test them. Otherwise you can take the word of people who have already tested them -- and, say, found that SBAs only work on local boosters -- and accept that the rules are universal.

I'm sure you were a riot with the old rate of fire bonus wording.
Nevil Oscillator
#42 - 2015-05-21 06:44:08 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:


Otherwise you can take the word of people who have already tested them -- and, say, found that SBAs only work on local boosters -- and accept that the rules are universal.

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I could, any of them use the forum ?
Haatakan Reppola
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#43 - 2015-05-21 06:51:04 UTC
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:


Otherwise you can take the word of people who have already tested them -- and, say, found that SBAs only work on local boosters -- and accept that the rules are universal.

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I could, any of them use the forum ?


If you dont trust anyone, GO TEST IT!
Nevil Oscillator
#44 - 2015-05-21 07:58:15 UTC
Haatakan Reppola wrote:


If you dont trust anyone, GO TEST IT!


It's got nothing to do with trust

No one has said they have tested it.
Valkin Mordirc
#45 - 2015-05-22 10:17:54 UTC
To ISD Decoy.

You've released a monster on Ships & Modules.

They never saw it coming.

Makes me wonder who the real monster is.


XD
#DeleteTheWeak
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#46 - 2015-05-22 11:11:38 UTC
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
Haatakan Reppola wrote:

If you dont trust anyone, GO TEST IT!

It's got nothing to do with trust
No one has said they have tested it.


The logic here: I can use scissors to shorten a rope! Thus if I move scissors, the distance left to walk also shortens!

Yeah, a module that increases local shield boost amount will not change your remote shield transfers. If you doubt it, take my word that I slapped a SBA on a nid and it only affected my local tank.
Nevil Oscillator
#47 - 2015-05-22 12:07:19 UTC
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
Haatakan Reppola wrote:

If you dont trust anyone, GO TEST IT!

It's got nothing to do with trust
No one has said they have tested it.


The logic here: I can use scissors to shorten a rope! Thus if I move scissors, the distance left to walk also shortens!

Yeah, a module that increases local shield boost amount will not change your remote shield transfers. If you doubt it, take my word that I slapped a SBA on a nid and it only affected my local tank.


OK seems you have used an SBA so that is a good start
An SBA does only affects your local tank
Incoming remote reps affect your local tank,
Question was whether the bonus is applied to the incoming reps
Is it 30% bonus ? I can't remember 20 30 40 somewhere in that region
So the only way you could tell is if you have a known amount of remote reps
Which I never have but it is possible a Logi pilot would tell you
And then you realise that instead of 400 HP that the logi pilot said Hey wonders it gave me 500
So are you saying that is what you did ?
Not sure I get the scissors analogy. but this is certainly isk for old rope.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2015-05-22 13:22:36 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
Shocked how has this thread lasted 3 pages????

OP and anyone not sure.

Local shield amplifing modules (Shield Boost Amplifiers, flux coils, shield rechargers, Shield power relays, and any others i cant remember) Do NOT effect shield boosting from a third party (shield transporters)... in any way.

The only thing that impoves their effectivness is to increase your own ships resistances.

This has been tested and proven. I dont understand how this is hard?

No Worries

Paranoid Loyd
#49 - 2015-05-22 13:26:14 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
I dont understand how this is hard?

It's not, Nevil trolls through delibrate obtusion, it's best to not feed him.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Valkin Mordirc
#50 - 2015-05-22 13:26:25 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
Shocked how has this thread lasted 3 pages????

OP and anyone not sure.

Local shield amplifing modules (Shield Boost Amplifiers, flux coils, shield rechargers, Shield power relays, and any others i cant remember) Do NOT effect shield boosting from a third party (shield transporters)... in any way.

The only thing that impoves their effectivness is to increase your own ships resistances.

This has been tested and proven. I dont understand how this is hard?



You have obviously never seen a Nevil Thread before.


It is...interesting to see how long he keeps it going.
#DeleteTheWeak
Nevil Oscillator
#51 - 2015-05-22 19:03:08 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:


Makes me wonder who the real monster is.


XD



Very difficult to tell with so many double standards flying around


ChromeStriker wrote:
Shocked how has this thread lasted 3 pages????

OP and anyone not sure.

Local shield amplifing modules (Shield Boost Amplifiers, flux coils, shield rechargers, Shield power relays, and any others i cant remember) Do NOT effect shield boosting from a third party (shield transporters)... in any way.

The only thing that impoves their effectivness is to increase your own ships resistances.

This has been tested and proven. I dont understand how this is hard?



Probably because no one actually said that
Nevil Oscillator
#52 - 2015-05-23 02:30:51 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
[:o

This has been tested and proven. I dont understand how this is hard?


By who ? if you don't mind me asking
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#53 - 2015-05-23 05:46:32 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
To ISD Decoy.

You've released a monster on Ships & Modules.

They never saw it coming.

Makes me wonder who the real monster is.


XD


We're shipping Lar/Veine to GD as revenge when he pops back up.
Nevil Oscillator
#54 - 2015-05-23 05:55:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Nevil Oscillator
Zhilia Mann wrote:


We're shipping Lar/Veine to GD as revenge when he pops back up.


As a general rule I disregard anything said by someone who refers to themselves in the plural.

Capacitor Relay has a negative effect to shield boosting so I guess there is likely to be the same answer for both.
Nevil Oscillator
#55 - 2015-05-24 04:51:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Nevil Oscillator
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:


We're shipping Lar/Veine to GD as revenge when he pops back up.


As a general rule I disregard anything said by someone who refers to themselves in the plural.
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So that excludes the royal family and the constitution.

If you get that.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2015-05-26 08:28:12 UTC
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
[:o

This has been tested and proven. I dont understand how this is hard?


By who ? if you don't mind me asking


Well t2 Logi ships have been in game from the first expansion... Caster if i remember correctly.... a bit before my time i admit but Old bros i have spoken to have regailed many a horror story from that time...

Sinse then a lot of newbros have joined and asked funny little questions like yours. Thankfully there are some top notch training corps around (eve uni being the most famous) and usually in the lesson about "Tanking" your issue is adressed.

And as im sure you wont be happy untill you hear "i saw x test it" (why cant you just do it yourself? seriously trollololol)... i tested it years ago when trying to set up logi for a new ship doctrine in our corp (MWD, and 4 lrg rep scimi, cap stable. i was quite proud at the time lol)

Happy now Nevil 'he-who-is-lazy-and-cannot-test-himself' Oscillator?

No Worries

Nevil Oscillator
#57 - 2015-05-26 15:43:36 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:


Happy now Nevil 'he-who-is-lazy-and-cannot-test-himself' Oscillator?


It's more to do with no one being interested enough to test it with me but..

Yes . . achieving what I intended to in starting this topic

Discussion is a wonderful concept, sometimes it even becomes a reality.

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