Live Events Discussion

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My stories! The tragic end of some NPC's that never even truly spawned!

"The game is in a general malaise lately and a feeling that better times are behind it. "

This could not be more wrong.

EvE is becoming more real than ever.



Stop reading/needing fiction

leave CQ

???

Profit!

You've missed the point entirely. It's about maintaining context within an immersive world.

An anecdote based on an even recently:

-Player A of the Caldari militia encounters Player B of the Gallente Militia

-Player A is destroyed by Player B

-Player B offers a "gf" in local chat.

-Player A responds with something vulgar and refuses to reciprocate the "gf" gesture.

-Player B attempts to point out that "gf" is a form of etiquette

This kind of behaviour is a meta-game etiquette. It's aimed at showing good "sportsmanship" towards an opposing PLAYER (not a character). From a contextual perspective, Player B is probably the most "in the right" because in what logical world would two opposing militants meet after a fight to congratulate the other on a victory as if it was a kind of sport?

And thus players alone cannot maintain context. A minority of role-players will do so with what little resources and ability they have, but ultimately it's up to the content developers to do so.

This is the same reason the "EVE is Real" trailer is so heavily edited. Yes the vocals were recorded in real-time. But where was the off-topic banter? Players discussing real-world events? Players interrupted by real-world events? Those aspects are contextually inappropriate and while great for general player activity, they are not necessarily great for the greater context of a virtual world.

Unlike the Chronicles which were always about regular people in the EVE fictional world, the EVE novels focussed on capsuleer characters. It allowed us to reflect upon and compare with our own experiences. The world dynamically altered to reflect events of the novel which helps the world to evolve as if it were real.

So yes, player activity is great. But it can't be the sole factor. And if your perception of an imagined world is a simple as "an NPC character who never truly spawned" then that's even more reason to inject some life! Because players think that's the only fictional content this game has ever offered... and that's not right. :)

EVE is still ripe for fan fiction. I just don't have the time or resources to create it at a level I feel it deserves.

Most of the soap opera, drama is behind EVE and won't return. It required a level of innocence and ignorance that had no chance as time went by.

"Immersion" is a very different beast for every individual player I think.

I agree with the OP in at least you can't have too much enjoyable fiction and lore thrown at us, though I think immersion is only minimally tied to that.

As some other posters mentioned, driving and creating your own stories, fiction/non-fiction and content level really is a player-responsibility. CCP can't force immersion as it's different for everyone. Although the lore "framework" provided by CCP for us to swim in is still as important as any other part of the pool.

I personally get an enormous degree of immersion here and have found many recent updates have helped with that and the way I play my EVE. For example, there's a lot more pvp content in wormhole space (what I enjoy) for me to immerse myself into the ship aspect, as well as avatar-related content (which I also enjoy) which has given me further immersion into my character herself. As a nerdy roleplayer I'm often in character, everywhere. I write non-fiction blogs in-character to share my character's true EVE stories. I use a ton of roleplay and non-roleplay private chans and often fly out on adventures with other like-minded pilots. And importantly I stay tuned to the news and opinions created by other players (or their characters) in places like IGS and EVE fiction, where the latest hot topics in lore are often on the table.

I'm always immersed baby

The immersion is there already if you want to take it, or create it yourself.

But regardless - +1still to more lore related content anyway.

"Hey there, what are you reading?"
"Great Expectations."
"Is it any good?"
"Eh, it's not all I hoped for."

Isn't Thera and sleepers stuff all new lore? Or do you mean other lore because you don't care about Wspace?

And they stated plainly that the cinematic trailers where costing a fortune in both time and money. And it couldn't really be justified or sustained.

I don't see that as any less than other lore interaction. The vast majority of us don't. So how did you interact with the other lore stuff? I mean a weekly bulletin doesn't really sound like interaction.

Just thought I'd touch base. Lately we've seen some really cool world news updates and Scope videos. For those who were critical of my feedback, what do you think of these recent fictional developments that have been appearing coinciding with the release of Tiamat? Can you honestly say they didn't contribute any further excitement, immersion or any other feelings? :)

Personally it was a more noteworthy release than previous. I haven't actually been playing a lot recenlty due to real life commitments, but being able to read fictional world news, as well as player driven news, whilst out of game is exactly the magic I've been referring to all along. This game world lives with or without you and simple touches like these Scope videos are fantastic.

The most noteworthy feature of the current scope videos is that they are more inclusive of capsuleers than ever before. We've seen player characters referenced by name and their theories discussed.

Well, I would like to send a VERY BIG THANK YOU, to whoever in CCP got these SCOPE vids going out.

A-W-E awesome!!!!!

*points to in game events* Wrong forum.