EVE General Discussion

Having the bonuses rock but I will say this: I would love for their roll to be on the battlefield (pve or pvp) even if it means they must target the ships for the bonuses with max range 100km.

Be creative and make new high slot modules? Make them similar to logi pilots or link up with them on the battlefield how cap transfer work with Amarr logi? Who knows... but I don't like afk boosting - just the buffs haha

TBH most people who use links as a gross generalisation try to use every tool available to get themselves an edge and the people complaining want the same results without having to go to half the efforts and if/when OGBs go will move straight onto whining about whatever else gives those players an edge.

Shut up and unsub again seriously... stop whining about things and get on with it. OGB is a thing and SHOULD remain a thing, it's the ONLY thing that allows soloers/small gangs to fight outnumbered and have fun anymore.

Read the Thread, will you? I specifically explained why boosts DON'T favor "soloers" and small gangs. They cater to larger stationary groups. Also: If you can't engage gangs without links you're just terrible at EVE. What really makes viable solo pvp tactics (kiting!) neigh impossible is when the enemy has skirmish links. You should also change your tone unless you like sounding like an egomaniac little brat.

exactly and on top of that: Larger and more stationary grups will be more likely to have links and to have better links! Tbh the whole "links allow us to engage larger gangs"-argument says something about the person making it. Specifically that he or she is not capable of understanding a game mechanic and its impact beyond the limited scope of their personal experience.

You should have one of those reader things that read your own comments back to you before posting them. It may help out with serious problems with your own posts.

And in other news. LINKS ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. CCP have said so. Again and Again. Get over yourselfs.

And if i go to the effort of skilling up a links pilot, why shouldn't i get an advantage? If i go to the effort of having a scout, why should that be bad? Seems there is just a lot of butthurt for people that can't be bothered with getting links, or even worse hate the idea of losing any fight.

If you want a perfectly even playing field, go play chess or Go.

OGB ships are bad in my opinion, simply as they are way too effective for the amount of risk involved. Some suggestions would be:

- Make boosts much weaker, with a boost (to the current level) if the ships are on grid with you. Probably difficult to code.

- Change the boosts to effect different characteristics. I don't think it is the tank bonuses that really get people - Its the massive speed boost combined with the boost to web/scram range. Either remove speed and/or web/scram bonuses and leave the rest as is. Its the combination of these two which makes links OP for the investment - And before anyone says but everyone could have one, can I just say that ANY game mechanic which encourages a second account or an ability/willingness to multi-box (with the investment in PC and screens etc...) is fundamentally bad. Really bad. Anyone who refuses to see that very obvious point needs their head examined as a matter of urgency.

- A new Hi Slot module that Jams links. Would be great if this could be fit as a hi slot module, but maybe more viable as a POS module - Similar to a Cyno Jammer - Just blocks all links in system when active. This would allow a legitimate counter to the OGB tactic. Simiar to fitting ECCM, tracking computers, sensor boosters etc...

Lots of other options to look at, but the only bit that is clear from my experience of the game (and reading this thread) is that OGB in the current format are unhealthy, generally unwanted and need alterations. I doubt CCP will even consider removing OGB, just from the sheer number of accounts that would be immediately expired, but changing them in a way that makes them a smaller factor in a fight (or make them counterable) I think is viable.

OGB... really simple- don't wanna lose it? Don't field it.

People like to talk a lot when it comes to "risk" and "risk adversity" yet then want to hide their ships off-grid while they reap the benefits for doing so.

How about practicing what you preach?

No need to get rid of offgrid boosts, everything in this game has a counter and the counter to ogb is being able to scan them down and kill them, even if you cant kill them you can cause them to keep warping which kills the boosts. In order for them to remove ogb they would have to go through every grid and fix them. They would have to change every grid in the game to be exactly alike.

OGB = Pay to win. At least for solo pvp. It unbalances the game by nullifying disadvantages of ships or by giving them enormous advantages. A ship with high tank, high speed and high dps is the exact opposite of good game design. OGB should at least give one direct disadvantage to its users.

People would brag for being good at pvp when I was doing FW pvp two years ago, now they are bragging for having a second account. This is simply terrible.